Jimbo Ram Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: B4, threatening to sue for what exactly? You keep posting this! What possible cause has Gibson got against the EFL. Why don’t you threaten to sue the EFL? Who’s this Sue woman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Tamworthram said: don’t understand how a successful appeal against a points deduction, that hasn’t been imposed yet, could be contingent on a new owner. Makes perfect sense if a reputable new owner wants to protect the club he says to efl: we were wrong, we’ll pay a big fine and we’ll say sorry, publicly (sorry B4 I know that would upset you) in response it’s quite possible the efl would stop pressing for a points deduction. The point is, the tribunal sets the sanction by reference to the rules/precedent. But the sanctions process is still adversarial in that we’re arguing for leniency and efl the opposite btw, reading about MM’s recent TalkSport interview I wondered if he’s sending an olive branch to the efl. Would be sensible... swallow your pride Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Makes perfect sense if a reputable new owner wants to protect the club he says to efl: we were wrong, we’ll pay a big fine and we’ll say sorry, publicly (sorry B4 I know that would upset you) in response it’s quite possible the efl would stop pressing for a points deduction. The point is, the tribunal sets the sanction by reference to the rules/precedent. But the sanctions process is still adversarial in that we’re arguing for leniency and efl the opposite btw, reading about MM’s recent TalkSport interview I wondered if he’s sending an olive branch to the efl. Would be sensible... swallow your pride Mel Sorry, it doesn’t make sense to me. Despite what we all think about the EFL I don’t think they would suggest that if Mel confesses, says sorry and offers to pay a fine they’d continue to pursue a points deduction but, if a new owner said the same they’d treat it differently. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Sorry, it doesn’t make sense to me. Despite what we all think about the EFL I don’t think they would suggest that if Mel confesses, says sorry and offers to pay a fine they’d continue to pursue a points deduction but, if a new owner said the same they’d treat it differently. EFL just wanted a win of any kind to avoid all the legal fees in my most humble opinion jimtastic56, Tamworthram and Indy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Sorry, it doesn’t make sense to me. Despite what we all think about the EFL I don’t think they would suggest that if Mel confesses, says sorry and offers to pay a fine they’d continue to pursue a points deduction but, if a new owner said the same they’d treat it differently. agreed The rest of the league are holding their feet to the flames, they expect the EFL to hand down the correct punishment not come up with some mates deal. The EFL are under some pressure here to do the right thing whatever that is. jimtastic56 and Tamworthram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, Sparkle said: EFL just wanted a win of any kind to avoid all the legal fees in my most humble opinion there are 3 actors in this paly; EFL, DCFC and the rest of the clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Sorry, it doesn’t make sense to me. Despite what we all think about the EFL I don’t think they would suggest that if Mel confesses, says sorry and offers to pay a fine they’d continue to pursue a points deduction but, if a new owner said the same they’d treat it differently. Yeah. Afterall a new owner might dislike the EFL even more! ? Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Sorry, it doesn’t make sense to me. Despite what we all think about the EFL I don’t think they would suggest that if Mel confesses, says sorry and offers to pay a fine they’d continue to pursue a points deduction but, if a new owner said the same they’d treat it differently. Ah ok I see your point. I think the journalists who have said change of ownership could reduce sanction assume MM’s relationship w the regulator has broken down. I agree that MM can also improve the position. If he rolls over, shows his tummy submissively to Mr Parry and agrees to pay all EFL costs, I guess he may be able to stop them arguing for a points deduction. But easier for a new owner to do - ‘Clean sweep of the brush’ etc Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Sorry I thought this thread was about the Americans Can anyone point me in the right direction ? David Graham Brown, hintonsboots, jimtastic56 and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Ah ok I see your point. I think the journalists who have said change of ownership could reduce sanction assume MM’s relationship w the regulator has broken down. I agree that MM can also improve the position. If he rolls over, shows his tummy submissively to Mr Parry and agrees to pay all EFL costs, I guess he may be able to stop them arguing for a points deduction. But easier for a new owner to do - ‘Clean sweep of the brush’ etc 1 hour ago, Spanish said: agreed The rest of the league are holding their feet to the flames, they expect the EFL to hand down the correct punishment not come up with some mates deal. The EFL are under some pressure here to do the right thing whatever that is. bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Not even a hint as what to name the next takeover thread. Boo! ? IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Sparkle said: EFL just wanted a win of any kind to avoid all the legal fees in my most humble opinion Yes, in this climate the longer this rumbles on and the greater the impact on Derby County as a club the more opinion will turn on the EFL who are, at the end of the day, supposed to be helping their members. They need something, though, to justify pushing this so hard so a new owner having their knuckles publically rapped for misdemeanours that didn't happen on their watch is a perfect climb down for all sides. New owners insist it is financial in structure and they just add it to the bill. Not saying it's happening but it makes for a good outcome for all sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Not even a hint as what to name the next takeover thread. Boo! ? Putin's red rams. Strong online presence. Convincing EFL not seen as a problem. Bolstering defence as we speak. Can't say more. Comrade 86, archram, Boycie and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Not even a hint as what to name the next takeover thread. Boo! ? That's journo code for 'dunno what's going on but not going to admit it' Tamworthram, Derby4Me, Topram and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Anag Ram said: Putin's red rams. Strong online presence. Convincing EFL not seen as a problem. It had good momentum initially but my sources say it's been slowly Stalin in recent weeks i-Ram, archram, Comrade 86 and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Just now, BaaLocks said: That's journo code for 'dunno what's going on but not going to admit it' Yeah but I was hoping he might play a 'The mists are clearing...I think I see a colour blue in there somewhere' type game'. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Basically in other words, he has no idea BaaLocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Makes perfect sense if a reputable new owner wants to protect the club he says to efl: we were wrong, we’ll pay a big fine and we’ll say sorry, publicly (sorry B4 I know that would upset you) in response it’s quite possible the efl would stop pressing for a points deduction. The point is, the tribunal sets the sanction by reference to the rules/precedent. But the sanctions process is still adversarial in that we’re arguing for leniency and efl the opposite btw, reading about MM’s recent TalkSport interview I wondered if he’s sending an olive branch to the efl. Would be sensible... swallow your pride Mel I still say that mel should fight and If we have to take them to court and get what ever over turned and they signed it off and we have that in writing I still think that efl is doing is wrong and can not be allowed to get away with it. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WharfedaleRam Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Anag Ram said: Putin's red rams. Strong online presence. Convincing EFL not seen as a problem. Bolstering defence as we speak. Can't say more. Novichok our first signing in the transfer window! You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, WharfedaleRam said: Novichok our first signing in the transfer window! You heard it here first. Is the poison dwarf on our recruitment staff ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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