CornwallRam Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Curtains said: Why do these polls get allowed and not banned Its just a wind up I’m sorry I hope that you are not suggesting that we send the poll back to where it came from Ramarena, Curtains, Carnero and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 It's got to be Morris. He's been a disaster for Derby County from start to finish (if there is ever a finish?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Said it on another thread, but if the people in charge have full faith in Rooney then I am comfortable with him staying, make some sensible transfers and give him some time to implement a style. However, I don’t see how anyone can truly have full faith in him to take us forward so if we are going to end up sacking him in 10 games time after a rough start then we may as well do it now and let someone build their own squad, so I’m Rooney out. Despite the above, off field problems are causing many of the on field problems so I see Mel as primarily responsible for that. Too many red flags with Alonso. Might be fine, might not be. I want us to be sensible though and my worry is more of the same celebrity chasing that is causing problems. Sensible owner, sensible manager and some sensible signings please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: It's got to be Morris. He's been a disaster for Derby County from start to finish (if there is ever a finish?) Genuinely shocked that you've never voiced this opinion before now angieram, Mostyn6, Reggie Greenwood and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) Now, I just tried to vote in the category I know my opinion on, but it won't let me do that unless I vote in the other two polls as well, even though I don't know yet about one of those, and don't think my option will ever be available on the other one. So, I have just voted against the majority for the hell of it! Edited May 9, 2021 by angieram Stray apostrophe! Curtains and The Scarlet Pimpernel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Carnero said: I must have missed the question about whether you want Mel to leave. Mel wants to sell and you know this. I don’t want Mel to leave but if he wants too their has to be alternatives. Alonso is an option but how feasible that is we will find out. If Rooney goes someone would have to appoint a new manager and who would that be at present. I want Rooney to stay but if he doesn’t get assurances he may opt to leave. Its ok disliking everyone and everything about DCFC but where will that get us. I love this club and want the best for it. You cant just create polls like this without dealing with the consequences of total negativity towards everyone. The club won’t finance or run itself Right now we should be happy whe avoided relegation and wait for the club to give us a way forward. You cant please everybody all the time in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: Mel wants to sell and you know this. I don’t want Mel to leave but if he wants too their has to be alternatives. Alonso is an option but how feasible that is we will find out. If Rooney goes someone would have to appoint a new manager and who would that be at present. I want Rooney to stay but if he doesn’t get assurances he may opt to leave. Its ok disliking everyone and everything about DCFC but where will that get us. I love this club and want the best for it. You cant just create polls like this without dealing with the consequences of total negativity towards everyone. The club won’t finance or run itself Right now we should be happy whe avoided relegation and wait for the club to give us a way forward. You cant please everybody all the time in life Did you want Cocu to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: Did you want Cocu to stay? Yes I did but I think Rooney has done a better job . Thats just an opinion Did you want Cocu to stay ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Curtains said: Yes I did but I think Rooney has done a better job . Thats just an opinion Did you want Cocu to stay ! I liked Cocu and thought he did well in his first season, in the end I just about accepted he had to go after the poor start to this season. Having said that, in hindsight I am not sure he would have done any worse than Wazza. How do you think Wazza has done a better job? I am sure you realise the stats show the opposite ? Srg, Carnero, S8TY and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Genuinely shocked that you've never voiced this opinion before now Been biding my time I reckon Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: I liked Cocu and thought he did well in his first season, in the end I just about accepted he had to go after the poor start to this season. Having said that, in hindsight I am not sure he would have done any worse than Wazza. How do you think Wazza has done a better job? I am sure you realise the stats show the opposite ? He kept us up which was his remit . No idea whether Cocu would of kept us up but I believe changing managers all the time is counter productive but the fans wanted Cocu gone . If they now want Rooney gone who would be next and next . The whole point though is we don’t know until the club tell us what the way forward is but I tell you one thing the options are better in the Championship . Who is going to own the club if Alonso falls through ! I am off until tomorrow now cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Nuwtfly said: 1) Rooney Out - 1 win in 15 matches should be enough to see that back of any manager, and I suspect if his name wasn't Wayne Rooney (and cost an absolute fortune to sack) he would have already gone. However, I strongly suspect that the club will stick by him and give him next season at this point, as I cannot see Mel Morris falling on his sword/getting his wallet out. 2) I voted Mel, but the reality is that all three are responsible for the failings this season. Mel I think the most so, because he is ultimately responsible for the operations at this football club, and was the one that decided to appoint Rooney after all. 3) I can tell you right now that Erik Alonso will not be taking over at this football club. 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Rooney out Squad not good enough Is there anyone else who can stump up some money? Does the Elon Musk want to buy a team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 What's interesting is that Wayne is more popular having got 1 point in the last 6 games than he was before that sequence! I suspect its just fans resigned to the fact he's staying and /or the reality that the ownership issue needs sorting more urgently and we need some kind of stability. I wonder what the poll (I know..) would say if it offered a choice between Wayne being in charge tomorrow or Mac or Wilder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, Chester40 said: What's interesting is that Wayne is more popular having got 1 point in the last 6 games than he was before that sequence! I suspect its just fans resigned to the fact he's staying and /or the reality that the ownership issue needs sorting more urgently and we need some kind of stability. I wonder what the poll (I know..) would say if it offered a choice between Wayne being in charge tomorrow or Mac or Wilder. You're only as good as your last result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Rooney kept us up. The wage bill was greatly trimmed. Lots of surplus players moved out. We survived having no fans at games. We survived the car fiasco. Waghorn became a hero. We have a potential buyer. Why criticize Mel, a genuine fan who spent a mega amount of his own money trying to get his home town team promoted. Next season should be easier. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Curtains said: Yes I did but I think Rooney has done a better job . Thats just an opinion Did you want Cocu to stay ! Losing Bielik changed everything. Not Wayne's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1) Out - I just don't see how his position is remotely tenable and I think if his name was John Smith this wouldn't even be a discussion. Given the level of the squad (which I perceive is around midtable in quality), the players coming back from fitness and the amount of time available I'd have expected any semi-competent manager to have guided us out of trouble and already be well on their way to outlining their style and developing some of the younger players. I've seen very little to suggest that our survival was anything more than briefly having Bielik fit, getting CKR fit, getting Rooney (who was an increasing liability) out of the team and happenstance (what with Rotherham's fixture pile up and Wednesday's points deduction). There's just hasn't been a deal there that to me would suggest that it would be correct to continue on with Rooney and I think we would be much better off starting the new season with a completely clean slate. 2) Coaching Staff - This feels somewhat a trick question because you can easily make a case for any of the three questions and it's very clearly a combination of all of the above. Personally I think the two strongest cases you can make are with an underperforming squad the buck stops with the coaching staff or with an underperforming coaching staff the buck stops with the management of the club as a whole. I went Coaching Staff but I don't think there is a huge amount between any option. 3) No - There is a lot about Alonso that seems dubious. There is big question marks over money but then there are some other rumbling questions like his general attitude and what happened at Wednesday. The entire thing just screams of red flags to me and I think I will be relieved if it just quietly goes away. LeedsCityRam, Deej and Andicis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I'd like some standard wording in dinner of the polls to make it easier to compare the results over time. I didn't like the "blame" question. But, maybe I'll "force"myself to choose one answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Wow, the symmetry of the poll is amazing after 180+ votes. Exactly the same number wanting Rooney in/out as wanting Alonso in/out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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