Shipley Ram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Are you seriously suggesting that the short-legged, weasel-faced, greasy permanent-waved, Parmo-munching Gibson actually has a wife? What on Earth would she see in such a despicable multi-millionaire? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9416587/Steve-Gibsons-chauffeur-mistakenly-sent-tycoons-wife-Polly-text-calling-f-nuts.html Mucker1884, Ramslad1992, Indy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Ramos said: Feel like not a lot has been mentioned around this - hasn’t made it through all the doom and gloom. Was anything else said? He just said people are circling with interest like vultures was the term used lol and a party has come back in previously interested. there is quite a bit of interest from there understanding RadioactiveWaste and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I don't believe that for one minute. In fact, it must surely be bordering on libel? Are you seriously suggesting that the short-legged, weasel-faced, greasy permanent-waved, Parmo-munching Gibson actually has a wife? What on Earth would she see in such a despicable multi-millionaire? Sorry, I ain't 'avin that! #standtobecorrected, mind! He is known for his cunning stunts whilst she is known for her stunning ........... Apologies to Mrs Merton interviewing Debbie McGee Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Heisenberg said: Will they ever piss off? Bamford’s. The irony, of course, is that season in question: Derby had 9th highest wage bill in the Championship (£40m) and Middlesbrough had the 4th highest wage bill in the Championship with £49m. Yet, it claims that we made it impossible for other teams to compete fairly? Aston Villa had a wage bill of £83m that same season, double ours. It's an outrageous claim. Reggie Greenwood, r_wilcockson, Andicis and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I'm certainly not an optimist but I'm not a pessimist either; middle of the road realist, that's me. I'm now fearing that liquidation is a very real possibility. 12 point deduction and a January fire sale, will condemn us to League One next season. FFP points deduction of 9+3 points, probably applied next season. There's also the possibility of 15 points if non-football creditors aren't paid 25%. That will send us down to League Two. As the Wycombe chairman (spit) says: who is going to want to buy a League Two club with £50mill debt? (and no ground, no academy). I've been thinking for a long time that it is going to take the demise of a big club to shake up the football world and bring in some professional governing bodies. I just never thought it would be my club, Derby County ? COYR ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58641014 Foxy Ram and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, IslandExile said: I'm certainly not an optimist but I'm not a pessimist either; middle of the road realist, that's me. I'm now fearing that liquidation is a very real possibility. 12 point deduction and a January fire sale, will condemn us to League One next season. FFP points deduction of 9+3 points, probably applied next season. There's also the possibility of 15 points if non-football creditors aren't paid 25%. That will send us down to League Two. As the Wycombe chairman (spit) says: who is going to want to buy a League Two club with £50mill debt? (and no ground, no academy). I've been thinking for a long time that it is going to take the demise of a big club to shake up the football world and bring in some professional governing bodies. I just never thought it would be my club, Derby County ? COYR ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58641014 What happens with a January fire sale? We only have 8 players contracted to the club past this season as it is. I obviously can see the requirement to sell players, but as it's the middle of the season and there isn't bosman players knocking about - what on earth do we actually do? Sell the players, put the under 18s in? I know Bolton had to play a lot of kids during their relegation season, but they still had a much deeper team than we currently do, especially if we start selling the very few players we have. I guess it doesn't matter too much, considering the issues at the club. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, G-Ram said: We're in administration, have no money to spend & are talking about building a new stadium ? It’s called the Leicester way? Reggie Greenwood, Arsene Titman, G-Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Was administration really necessary? Mel blaming covid but we are pretty much out of covid. We're getting fans back in the ground, our wage bill with the players that have left and the max £4.5k PW for new players must mean our wage bill is at the lowest i years Surely money coming to money going out looks a lot better If HMRC & others are calling in debts then surely he has enough money (if he cared) to do a directors loan to the club at zero interest & pay off all debts & loans which would put us in a better position than paying interest He literally doesn't care. If our accounts fail then take the points. Surely morris is still a very wealthy man. Thissituation stinks more because it feels like he wont sort the mess he created or fund the club rather than can't jimtastic56, Miggins, Fla Ram and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Sean said: Not sure if it has been noticed here but the Morris and Pearce's car park signs at Pride Park have been covered over with bags... Closure Oooh picture please. Pretty please! #COYR Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ambitious said: What happens with a January fire sale? We only have 8 players contracted to the club past this season as it is. I obviously can see the requirement to sell players, but as it's the middle of the season and there isn't bosman players knocking about - what on earth do we actually do? Sell the players, put the under 18s in? I know Bolton had to play a lot of kids during their relegation season, but they still had a much deeper team than we currently do, especially if we start selling the very few players we have. I guess it doesn't matter too much, considering the issues at the club. Depends what point of time your assessing Boltons squad. They played a team with an average of 19 at one and were basically almost asking for volunteers to play. They've had much, much thinner squads than us at various points in the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, CocuBarmyArmy said: The EFL need to step up here and protect us from this, no basis what so ever and it's disgusting. He is trying to let the EFL know that they have to execute Derby with more points deduction - EFL have no balls so we will see if they tell him to go away - anyway doesn’t that show something about this nerd - it wouldn’t be so bad if Middlesbrough actually played any football and was a nice place RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, Ambitious said: What happens with a January fire sale? We only have 8 players contracted to the club past this season as it is. I obviously can see the requirement to sell players, but as it's the middle of the season and there isn't bosman players knocking about - what on earth do we actually do? Sell the players, put the under 18s in? I know Bolton had to play a lot of kids during their relegation season, but they still had a much deeper team than we currently do, especially if we start selling the very few players we have. I guess it doesn't matter too much, considering the issues at the club. Some folks are positively suggesting we can overcome the 12 point deduction. Well, even though there's been an improvement in both results and performances over last season, further improvement will be required to overtake three other teams. A fire sale in January will scupper that idea altogether. There's also the question of additional points deductions. I would not put it past the EFL to delay those until next season if it looks like we're certain for the drop anyway this season. EFL fighting to protect football and football clubs. Yeah right. Bury, Bolton, Wigan, now Derby. Shame on them. Derby4Me, SaffyRam, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, GenBr said: Depends what point of time your assessing Boltons squad. They played a team with an average of 19 at one and were basically almost asking for volunteers to play. They've had much, much thinner squads than us at various points in the last few years Oooh, ooh silver lining.....can I get a game? I'd at least increase the average age of the side ? GenBr, hintonsboots and cstand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Ram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Heisenberg said: Will they ever piss off? Bamford’s. Gibson is a trucking dunce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Unlucky Alf said: Did i not say this was under the caveat of “i hope” I'm not claiming any substance for this other than i dont believe anyone whos a been a fan of a club for circa 50 years would let them vanish there has to be more to it surely ? Im perhaps , hoping, maybe scared of the truth i dont know i just think.. based on nithing more but my over active mind theres another layer to this Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Some folks are positively suggesting we can overcome the 12 point deduction. Well, even though there's been an improvement in both results and performances over last season, further improvement will be required to overtake three other teams. A fire sale in January will scupper that idea altogether. There's also the question of additional points deductions. I would not put it past the EFL to delay those until next season if it looks like we're certain for the drop anyway this season. EFL fighting to protect football and football clubs. Yeah right. Bury, Bolton, Wigan, now Derby. Shame on them. Well we've managed an average of 1.25 points per game so far (should have been more with the Peterborough & Forest games ) so that's on course for 57 or 58 points for the season. Take 12 off that & it might just be enough. We survived with 44 points last season Jason Knight is fit again & if we can get & keep Bielik & CKR, who knows Of course any further punishment or fire sale & we're ducked Edited September 22, 2021 by SamUltraRam r_wilcockson and IslandExile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, G-Ram said: Was administration really necessary? Mel blaming covid but we are pretty much out of covid. We're getting fans back in the ground, our wage bill with the players that have left and the max £4.5k PW for new players must mean our wage bill is at the lowest i years Surely money coming to money going out looks a lot better If HMRC & others are calling in debts then surely he has enough money (if he cared) to do a directors loan to the club at zero interest & pay off all debts & loans which would put us in a better position than paying interest He literally doesn't care. If our accounts fail then take the points. Surely morris is still a very wealthy man. Thissituation stinks more because it feels like he wont sort the mess he created or fund the club rather than can't We are out of covid… but that doesnt mean that it didnt wipe a seasons revenues off for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sheff Ram said: Gibson is a trucking dunce... I wander if he knows that we have a fair chance of overturning that 12 points cos the part of the efl handbook about entering admin because of extream factors out of our control and so wants to get us ducked some other how reading are allegedly going to use it cant imagine for a second that we wouldnt if were taken over by new owners r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, IslandExile said: I'm certainly not an optimist but I'm not a pessimist either; middle of the road realist, that's me. I'm now fearing that liquidation is a very real possibility. 12 point deduction and a January fire sale, will condemn us to League One next season. FFP points deduction of 9+3 points, probably applied next season. There's also the possibility of 15 points if non-football creditors aren't paid 25%. That will send us down to League Two. As the Wycombe chairman (spit) says: who is going to want to buy a League Two club with £50mill debt? (and no ground, no academy). I've been thinking for a long time that it is going to take the demise of a big club to shake up the football world and bring in some professional governing bodies. I just never thought it would be my club, Derby County ? COYR ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58641014 If your not a pessimist can any pessimists hovering the fingertips over the keyboard please refrain! I might liquidate myself after reading that ? ossieram, GB SPORTS, IslandExile and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 For anyone thinking about whether it would be possible to form a ‘Phoenix’ club, Bury AFC formed last season, but the season got suspended due to COVID. This season, After 10 games they are second in the North West Counties League First Division North, which is at level 10 in the football pyramid. These are the current non-league clubs in Derbyshire, level 10 would be around the level of Heanor and Borrowash Vics. It would be good fun for a bit, but they wouldn’t see league football in my lifetime. Level 5 Chesterfield National League Level 6 Alfreton Town National League North Level 7 Buxton NPL (Northern Premier League) Premier Division Matlock Town NPL Premier Division Mickleover FC NPL Premier Division Level 8 Belper Town NPL Division One East Glossop North End NPL Division One Gresley NPL Division One East Level 9 Ilkeston Town MFL (Midland Football League) Premier Division Long Eaton United MFL Premier Division South Normanton Athletic MFL Premier Division Staveley Miners Welfare NCEL (Northern Counties East League) Premier Division Level 10 Belper United EMCL (East Midlands Counties League) FC Bolsover NCEL (Northern Counties East League) Division One Borrowash Victoria EMCL Dronfield Town NCEL Division One Graham Street Prims EMCL Heanor Town EMCL New Mills NWCL (North West Counties League) Division One South Shirebrook Town NCEL Division One Red Ram, Alph, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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