DCFC Kicks Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Well Cocu had a lot of bad luck, no preseason and weren’t we doing OK until COVID hit? Especially since we lost some key players from the year before. I think with fans we would be performing better regardless but compare squads over the last 3 years and they have gradually weakened I think his bad luck was enough to justify giving him the start of this season. He did have a preseason this season, which he seemed to waste working on a 3-4-3 formation which was subsequently binned after a few games when it utterly failed. You could tell after the Blackburn game he was in complete shock and had no clue what to do. Every club had to deal with COVID. I can understand a team performing badly with the circumstances you mentioned, but there's bad, and then there's abysmal, which is what we we're/are. Being completely outplayed by Barrow was possibly the lowest I've ever seen the club. I still think he is one of our worst managers ever. I don't think he's a bad manager by any means but he just never got to grips with Championship football RadioactiveWaste, Chris_Martin, Hector was the best and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Where is the proof? He doesn't even say according to a source close to the club! ? Allegedly! ? No collusion! No collusion! No collusion! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Well then Wayne!! If you didn’t need a performance to protect your own credibility then you do now after that interview today and the subsequent reports about marginalising McClaren!! I hope you are correct and we do get a performance tomorrow after your home truths as it will mean we are one step closer to survival which is frankly all I care about right now!! Rammy03, RadioactiveWaste and Hector was the best 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) "Yet recent results and performances have been abysmal, with Rooney’s tactical set-up under scrutiny, and his ability to motivate and organise. Rooney and his assistant coaches have allegedly marginalised former England manager Steve McClaren in recent weeks, decreasing his influence on team selection and tactical decisions. McClaren is the club’s technical director and while Derby insist he is not on the coaching staff, he appears to have been sidelined at a crucial time." Why you would marginalise the most experienced manager at the club, at a time like this, is absolutely crazy. I can only assume it is out of some dogged sense of pride, or perhaps ignorance, on Rooney's part. He did afterall get a bit spikey earlier in his tenure when asked what impact Steve McClaren was having on the team's upturn in fortunes. The sooner we get rid of Cocu's Captain and this gang of coahces, a gang that not only got us in this mess in the first place but then managed to somehow wash their hands of all involvement in that mess, the better! Edited April 23, 2021 by Nuwtfly Leeds Ram, RadioactiveWaste, brady1993 and 11 others 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: Well then Wayne!! If you didn’t need a performance to protect your own credibility then you do now after that interview today and the subsequent reports about marginalising McClaren!! I hope you are correct and we do get a performance tomorrow after your home truths as it will mean we are one step closer to survival which is frankly all I care about right now!! I'm loving the Rooney and Co have marginalised thebest manager we've had in the last 10 years because they know better which has resulted in us improving to dramtica.....oh....poo. Hector was the best, BramcoteRam84, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said: "Yet recent results and performances have been abysmal, with Rooney’s tactical set-up under scrutiny, and his ability to motivate and organise. Rooney and his assistant coaches have allegedly marginalised former England manager Steve McClaren in recent weeks, decreasing his influence on team selection and tactical decisions. McClaren is the club’s technical director and while Derby insist he is not on the coaching staff, he appears to have been sidelined at a crucial time." Why you would marginalise the most experienced manager at the club, at a time like this, is absolutely crazy. I can only assume it is out of some dogged sense of pride, or perhaps ignorance, on Rooney's part. He did afterall get a bit spikey earlier in his tenure when asked what impact Steve McClaren was having on the team's upturn in fortunes. The sooner we get Cocu's Captain and this gang of coahces, a gang that not only got us in this mess in the first place but then managed to somehow wash their hands of all involvement in that mess, out of this club the better! Agreed. Just hope we can somehow stay up and then have the root and branch overhaul of the club from top to bottom.... Ramarena, Nuwtfly, Hector was the best and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I’m not a McClaren bum licker but I appreciate what he did with us on both occasions. The decision to sideline him seems bizarre especially when our form has been so dire recently. Without inside knowledge I’d hazard a guess that Rooney did everything in his powers to stab Cocu in the back (I’m not a Cocu fan either). Bringing Rooney to the club could be Mel’s biggest mistake. Ramarena, Deej, Archied and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I'm loving the Rooney and Co have marginalised thebest manager we've had in the last 10 years because they know better which has resulted in us improving to dramtica.....oh....poo. Honestly I couldn’t care less if we get a result tomorrow and get what we need to survive. Who knows it could be Rooney’s Redemption ? But boy he’s set himself up for a fall with that interview today. I’m expecting a performance of the ages now based on that, a performance to rival the Brighton semi!! Edited April 23, 2021 by BramcoteRam84 RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Total fabrication. Of course they haven’t marginalised him. Just lazy lazy journalism. Spanish and The Scarlet Pimpernel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Total fabrication. Of course they haven’t marginalised him. Just lazy lazy journalism. Yeah, to be fair you can never usually trust anything John Percy writes. I much prefer Alan Nixon! ? Mostyn6, MuespachRam, Ramarena and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Yeah, to be fair you can never usually trust anything John Percy writes. I much prefer Alan Nixon! ? HITC is the ony trustworthy source.... Mostyn6, GboroRam, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Yeah, to be fair you can never usually trust anything John Percy writes. I much prefer Alan Nixon! ? Or Barry. Jourdan and Nuwtfly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Total fabrication. Of course they haven’t marginalised him. Just lazy lazy journalism. How do you know they haven't? Deej and GenBr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Top sportsmen undoubtedly need a high level of self-belief, but ideally they should also have self-awareness too. Rooney was a world-class footballer, one of the best of his generation, but he's a complete novice as a manager, on the first rung of his new career ladder. If it's true that he's marginalised McClaren then that, to me, smacks of arrogance. As an assistant Mac has gained promotion to the Premier League (with Derby), and has won the European Cup, Premier League and FA Cup while at Man Utd. As a manager/coach he has won a domestic trophy (with Boro) and a foreign league title (in Holland, with Twente). He's also coached the England team. If Rooney thinks that that's the kind of experience that he can safely ignore, whilst in a desperate attempt to avoid relegation to the third level of English football, then he must have a massively greater belief in his own abilities than a lot of people. Unsurprisingly, things do not sound great behind the scenes at Derby County right now. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong, Nuwtfly, Deej and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: How do you know they haven't? He doesn't. His post is also a total fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, GenBr said: He doesn't. His post is also a total fabrication. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: How do you know that? Total fabrication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Just now, GenBr said: Total fabrication You are making a total fabrication? I'm confused?? If not,how do you know it's not true other than not believing it? Deej 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 minute ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: You are making a total fabrication? I'm confused?? If not,how do you know it's not true other than not believing it? If you read some of the others points he comments on it's like he's copied from the Daily Fail. That's why. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: How do you know they haven't? How do you know they have? mainly because they aren’t 5 year old kids that walk around a play ground saying “I’m not talking to Steve anymore-be in my gang....yeah let’s not talk to Steve anymore....” Are people really that desperate for a story that they believe crap like that.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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