Chris_Martin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Rammy03 said: Why is it always 'Rooney out' 'cocu out' all the time. Can you not see that years of mismanagement and now a threadbare squad is the reason why we are here. You can't just keep changing the manager expecting drastically different results. There are bigger problems at the club. We've had two managers this season and we're not miles different, that tells you that the team isn't good. This lies firmly at the door of Mel Morris. still have to find the right one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: still have to find the right one though. Still have to give the manager opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Still have to give the manager opportunity. Are you willing to stand by Wazza if he takes us down Roy Mac5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Still have to give the manager opportunity. what have the last 30 odd games been then if not an opportunity for Wayne? And also the 60 odd games Cocu had in charge, is that not an adequate opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: what have the last 30 odd games been then if not an opportunity for Wayne? And also the 60 odd games Cocu had in charge, is that not an adequate opportunity? You tell me. Rooney has had no preseason and one January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You tell me. Rooney has had no preseason and one January window. but he has had 30 odd games in charge, and we're barely any further up the table than when he first started. not just that, but the football on the whole has been terrible to watch. And he has consistently failed to get the best out of many of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Aidy Boothroyd is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: but he has had 30 odd games in charge, and we're barely any further up the table than when he first started. not just that, but the football on the whole has been terrible to watch. And he has consistently failed to get the best out of many of our players. You saw what happened when we played more attacking against Blackburn. It was good to watch but we still lost. Why? Because we don't have the quality at the top end of the pitch to score loads of goals, and we don't have the quality at the back to be able to keep goals out when we are so open. I honestly don't think there's a great deal more Rooney can do with this lot. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Our short period of success this season was built on clean sheets, being solid and nicking the old goal. All of a sudden that's gone and suprise surprise we lose games. Because we don't have the attacking quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: You saw what happened when we played more attacking against Blackburn. It was good to watch but we still lost. Why? Because we don't have the quality at the top end of the pitch to score loads of goals, and we don't have the quality at the back to be able to keep goals out when we are so open. I honestly don't think there's a great deal more Rooney can do with this lot. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Our short period of success this season was built on clean sheets, being solid and nicking the old goal. All of a sudden that's gone and suprise surprise we lose games. Because we don't have the attacking quality. but there goals weren't from us being too open, they were from mistakes. Wisdom falling over himself, and whoever thought it was a good idea to put Lawrence marking their best attacker at corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: You saw what happened when we played more attacking against Blackburn. It was good to watch but we still lost. Why? Because we don't have the quality at the top end of the pitch to score loads of goals, and we don't have the quality at the back to be able to keep goals out when we are so open. I honestly don't think there's a great deal more Rooney can do with this lot. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Our short period of success this season was built on clean sheets, being solid and nicking the old goal. All of a sudden that's gone and suprise surprise we lose games. Because we don't have the attacking quality. Nor that great in the middle of the park... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: but he has had 30 odd games in charge, and we're barely any further up the table than when he first started. not just that, but the football on the whole has been terrible to watch. And he has consistently failed to get the best out of many of our players. One of the most concerning things after relegation concerns is the regression of the young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamontheMoor Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I haven't voted. I understand why the question has been asked. I can't put the blame fully on Rooney and make him the fallguy. Yes, I think he has some blame for our position but the players are the ones who have made the mistakes, missed the sitters and bottled it on too many occasions. He has not told them to do that. The blame cannot be fully on Rooney as the squad just isn't good enough. Also the situation he took over from after Cocu was an absolute clusterduck..... At the minute, I don't know how to feel about Rooney and whether he should stay or go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: but there goals weren't from us being too open, they were from mistakes. Wisdom falling over himself, and whoever thought it was a good idea to put Lawrence marking their best attacker at corners. You're not wrong, but the goals were coming. Marshall pulled off 2 or 3 really good saves before wisdom fell over the ball. We could not deal with being open at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RamontheMoor said: I haven't voted. I understand why the question has been asked. I can't put the blame fully on Rooney and make him the fallguy. Yes, I think he has some blame for our position but the players are the ones who have made the mistakes, missed the sitters and bottled it on too many occasions. He has not told them to do that. The blame cannot be fully on Rooney as the squad just isn't good enough. Also the situation he took over from after Cocu was an absolute clusterduck..... At the minute, I don't know how to feel about Rooney and whether he should stay or go. Good enough to go top of the form table though. You can argue that was Beilik, but they still picked up a decent amount of points after his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Good enough to go top of the form table though. You can argue that was Beilik, but they still picked up a decent amount of points after his injury. And one of the signs of not being good enough (and youth for that matter) is lack of consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: And one of the signs of not being good enough (and youth for that matter) is lack of consistency. Yeah you’re right, they are all poo and taking us down Am I doing this right? Shame their performance history doesn’t exactly tally with this theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Shame their performance history doesn’t exactly tally with this theory. Isn't their performance history the league table?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Isn't their performance history the league table?! Not unless this is their first season as a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, Ramarena said: Not unless this is their first season as a pro. Well some of them have been relegated, some of them have no history and some are also rans - where does that put them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 So we are fingers crossed hoping Rotherham don't get too many points and we scrape 4th bottom. Wasn't so long ago we had signed England's all-time leading goalscorer, looking at promotion and being a cash rich foreign play thing with a few even speculating if Rafa Benitez (of Real, Liverpool, Chelsea and Inter fame) could possibly be convinced to sign up for the project ??? They do say its better to shoot for the stars and fail...but we are taking the biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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