RoyMac5 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: It’s no secret that I was v cynical of people opening the “play off thread” after one shithousing win against who I forget and was beating the we need to be looking over our shoulder drum and did for a good while Do you think that made the difference then?! The fact that some fans preferred to consider the potential that was still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Exactly, not sure where this baalocks about negative posters wanting to be proved right comes from. We’ve just been being realistic, it’s as simple as that. Absolutely no Derby fan wants to see this club go down. I desperately want to be proved wrong, but I can’t see us in the Championship next season. 1000000% Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Do you think that made the difference then?! The fact that some fans preferred to consider the potential that was still possible. No of course not How could it ? but I’m allowed to give a totally opposite opinion .. as are they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: No of course not How could it ? but I’m allowed to give a totally opposite opinion .. as are they No one said otherwise. But you're doing some nose-thumbing at them, so expect a few opinions on what you put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: No one said otherwise. But you're doing some nose-thumbing at them, so expect a few opinions on what you put. Yer obviously That’s what we’re here for ... to exchange opinions and views somone is always going to disagree with someone else All good fun, it’s how Dave makes his millions from us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Exactly, not sure where this baalocks about negative posters wanting to be proved right comes from. If you automatically assume the position that everything is poo, everything will go wrong, nothing good will ever happen and constantly profecise doom then you'll be proven right far more than you'll be proven wrong, especially where Derby are concerned. People naturally, despite outward projections, hold on to hope that things might actually not turn to poo. It's a curse of the human condition, even when you think you've given up hope, it can pop back up seemingly out of nowhere. Until it doesn't. We're all feeling bad enough about things without it being constantly rammed down our throats, as much as 'we' revel in our misery at times, 'we' don't really want a constant reminder of how bad things are, or could be, and as such (naturally) get a little defensive. I'm sure you're the same but maybe people don't (or rarely) see that hope in your posts, the humanity? If outwardly all people see from you is a barrage of negativity, it's going to get their backs up. It comes across almost as programmed, it comes across as attention seeking, even if it isn't meant to. Edited May 3, 2021 by Coconut TigerTedd, The Scarlet Pimpernel and NottsRam77 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Exactly, not sure where this baalocks about negative posters wanting to be proved right comes from. We’ve just been being realistic, it’s as simple as that. Absolutely no Derby fan wants to see this club go down. I desperately want to be proved wrong, but I can’t see us in the Championship next season. Have read with interest one poster saying that negatively stereotyping an individual is of course the fault with the person themselves not the person making the narrow minded judgement which explains a great many things in answer to your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Coconut said: If you automatically assume the position that everything is poo, everything will go wrong, nothing good will ever happen and constantly profecise doom then you'll be proven right far more than you'll be proven wrong, especially where Derby are concerned. People naturally, despite outward projections, hold on to hope that things might actually not turn to poo. It's a curse of the human condition, even when you think you've given up hope, it can pop back up seemingly out of nowhere. Until it doesn't. We're all feeling bad enough about things without it being constantly rammed down our throats, as much as 'we' revel in our misery at times, 'we' don't really want a constant reminder of how bad things are, or could be, and as such (naturally) get a little defensive. I'm sure you're the same but maybe people don't (or rarely) see that hope in your posts, the humanity? If outwardly all people see from you is a barrage of negativity, it's going to get their backs up. It comes across almost as programmed, it comes across as attention seeking, even if it isn't meant to. Good post ? May Contain Nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Tamworthram said: Of course the downside of a Rotherham draw is that Wednesday will know all they can do is beat us and hope Rotherham don’t beat Cardiff. The margin of their victory over us would be irrelevant. So, arguably, if they went a goal up they could shut up shop, hang on for a narrow win and hope for a favourable result at Cardiff. Whereas, either a Rotherham win or defeat will mean they know goal difference may come into play. They might need at least a seven goal swing in their favour in Rotherham won one and lost one which isn’t completely out of the question. This would mean really going for it against us which could leave them exposed to the counter attack. Fortunately for them, they’re only playing Derby so the risk would be low ? I think, on balance, a Rotherham defeat has got to be the best outcome on Tuesday. Yeah of course, a Rotherham loss is what we want as the margins are going to be so fine. I just hope we don’t end up shooting ourselves in the foot if we know at 12:30 on Saturday that a single point will guarantee survival. If we play for a point, I don’t think I’ll be able to watch the last 10 minutes if the scores are still level. I genuinely think that would be more gut-wrenching than any play-off final. Rammy03, r_wilcockson, uttoxram75 and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 How can anyone want anything other than a Rotherham defeat vs Luton? I have read the reasons and I can kind of get it but a defeat for Rotherham means we would only need a draw vs Sheff W. Yes, I get that could mean the players go out and just play for a draw instead of a win but I would much rather go into Saturdays game knowing 2 out of 3 scenario's keeps us safe. Plus if Rotherham get a draw or win tomorrow we are also relying on Cardiff doing us a favour Saturday as well as our own result. The way we have crumbled recently I would not want us to have to win Saturday as I just cannot see it. To think if we had got at least 1 draw in any of the 3 games (out of our last 4) where we have taken the lead and lost 2-1 we would be almost safe now. Rammy03 and Carl Sagan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Calling it now. We’ve not come back from a losing position to win once this season. We’ll go 1 down. We’ll all be having kittens. We’ll get one back, but Rotherham are winning, and then we’ll score a winner in the last minute. If carling did last day relegation shoot outs. r_wilcockson, Robert Earnshaws Workrate, Carl Sagan and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 hours ago, DCFC1388 said: How can anyone want anything other than a Rotherham defeat vs Luton? I have read the reasons and I can kind of get it but a defeat for Rotherham means we would only need a draw vs Sheff W. Yes, I get that could mean the players go out and just play for a draw instead of a win but I would much rather go into Saturdays game knowing 2 out of 3 scenario's keeps us safe. Plus if Rotherham get a draw or win tomorrow we are also relying on Cardiff doing us a favour Saturday as well as our own result. The way we have crumbled recently I would not want us to have to win Saturday as I just cannot see it. To think if we had got at least 1 draw in any of the 3 games (out of our last 4) where we have taken the lead and lost 2-1 we would be almost safe now. Exactly....anything else is total nonsense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: Calling it now. We’ve not come back from a losing position to win once this season. We’ll go 1 down. We’ll all be having kittens. We’ll get one back, but Rotherham are winning, and then we’ll score a winner in the last minute. If carling did last day relegation shoot outs. It's carlsberg Carl Sagan, TigerTedd and NottsRam77 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: It's carlsberg Lol! Somehow that's so the Derby Way currently! TigerTedd and Mick Brolly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol! Somehow that's so the Derby Way currently! I’m just going to quietly pretend like I meant it. Mick Brolly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: I’m just going to quietly pretend like I meant it. ? Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I read in the newspaper last week, that getting relegated from the championship means a loss of £5m in various revenues. Most of that must come from sky games, sponsorship loss on gate receipts etc. Also, does each club get paid an amount of monies depending on what position you finish in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Now is the time for your annual reminder that Rotherham's superior goal difference doesn't effectively give them an extra point. It gives them an effective point value of anything between (but not including) 0 and 1. Yes, I'm a Bamford. Edited May 3, 2021 by DarkFruitsRam7 Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will the Ram Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 A Rotherham win tonight would put us in the bottom three. How is that a good result for us? NottsRam77, kevinhectoring, Andicis and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 16 hours ago, Kernow said: Yeah of course, a Rotherham loss is what we want as the margins are going to be so fine. I just hope we don’t end up shooting ourselves in the foot if we know at 12:30 on Saturday that a single point will guarantee survival. If we play for a point, I don’t think I’ll be able to watch the last 10 minutes if the scores are still level. I genuinely think that would be more gut-wrenching than any play-off final. Worried all this rain will give Rotherham just the pitch they want tonight Maybe a Postponement might be good for us ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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