Inverurie Ram Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I agree btw. Our next season's kit better not have brown shirts! @loweman2and @Quangy are on the look out........ GboroRam and ariotofmyown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 47 minutes ago, Carnero said: Kieran Maguire was just on Radio Derby and mentioned the name Raja Sapta Oktohari as being the money man behind this. Where KM got that information from I don't know as he normally knows the square root of sod all. Did he mention another Indonesian bloke before that, a politician with links to the mining industry? I was only half listening because I wasn't expecting Maguire to provide exclusive information. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, JfR said: Did he mention another Indonesian bloke before that, a politician with links to the mining industry? I was only half listening because I wasn't expecting Maguire to provide exclusive information. Yes I heard that as well but Oktohari was the only name I picked up. It’s probably a consortium. Again we’re all speculating, we’ll find out when the deal is done in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, JfR said: Did he mention another Indonesian bloke before that, a politician with links to the mining industry? I was only half listening because I wasn't expecting Maguire to provide exclusive information. Same guy I think. therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 As I said before with the Sheikh, following a football club is much more than the owner's far right politics. We'll all be here long after he's pissed off, I can't stop following the club that is a huge enough a part of my life for me to post regularly on here for the past decade even though I can't stand Alonso's politics. Derby isn't the owner, it's the fans, players, pubs, mascots, ex-players, managers, coaches, academy lads who make one appearance then never play again, blokes pissing in the Derwent on the way to the stadium, old women in the west stand and little kids in the south stand. Inverurie Ram, Jimbo Ram, Archied and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Meh Could be worse, could be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 It makes me laugh how some people are questioning the lads age. I quite like the idea of a young man in charge who is 21st century in the way he hopefully thinks and does things. I hope this goes through and I hope it's a big success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) An Indonesian consortium have been trying to buy Oxford recently: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/03/19/ex-inter-milan-owner-involved-oxford-united-consortium-takeover/amp/ The article includes references to the Indonesian Olympic Committee (of which Raja Sapta Oktohari is a member) and the former owner of Inter Milan & DC United from when Rooney was at DC United. I wonder if these stories are linked? ? Edited April 7, 2021 by Carnero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dawn Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 LeedsCityRam, Steve How Hard?, cstand and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Orphanram said: Before putting Brian Clough on a Tory vs Labour moral pedestal, his views towards Justin Fashanu sexuality and his flexible socialist attitude when taking a bung make uncomfortable reading. I haven’t got a problem with Brian Clough whatsoever and still consider him a hero but in today’s cancel culture society it’s remarkable how we find a way to excuse the misdemeanours of those we love and weaponise what we can against those we dislike. Michael Jackson, David Bowie and John Peel seemingly get a free pass when it comes to being cancelled whilst poor old Leon Brittan’s family were utterly hounded with what turned out to be a smear campaign. What I do think is fair is that these questions are raised with Alonso as it’s not unreasonable for fans to want to know about his views on such things. I can’t say I’m particularly thrilled if he has ‘Far’ right views but I find the views of the ‘Far’ left as equally deplorable and neo liberal cancel everybody and everything bunch the worst of the lot. This probably means the chances of us finding a perfect custodian of the club as I would like it pretty remote. Quite. When I heard this possible takeover my first thoughts were whether or not the owners could bring investment and success to my club. But some others seem to look at his politics first and trot out the same issues as for the previous would be owner. Some even said that politics are more important than Derby County! Sacrilege! Hector was the best, Archied, Orphanram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Not sure why he's interested in a club threatened with relegation to League 1 with a totally threadbare squad and who doesn't own their own ground. But that's just me. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carnero said: An Indonesian consortium have been trying to buy Oxford recently: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/03/19/ex-inter-milan-owner-involved-oxford-united-consortium-takeover/amp/ The article includes references to the Indonesian Olympic Committee (of which Raja Sapta Oktohari is a member) and the former owner of Inter Milan & DC United from when Rooney was at DC United. I wonder if these stories are linked? ? When I was looking up Alonso earlier, I did see a couple of articles mentioning that he had links with DC United, I'll see if I can find one of them again Carnero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: As I said before with the Sheikh, following a football club is much more than the owner's far right politics. We'll all be here long after he's pissed off, I can't stop following the club that is a huge enough a part of my life for me to post regularly on here for the past decade even though I can't stand Alonso's politics. Derby isn't the owner, it's the fans, players, pubs, mascots, ex-players, managers, coaches, academy lads who make one appearance then never play again, blokes pissing in the Derwent on the way to the stadium, old women in the west stand and little kids in the south stand. Agree but still a shame the club is associated with that. Maybe he will just be the facilitator on a short term basis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsene Titman Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I understood Kieran Maguire as saying that Oktohari was the money man behind the deal. There was no mention of a consortium, or even another person being involved in funding. therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezzeetiger Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 3 hours ago, DCFC1388 said: No I am not but I am from an Indian family who support other religions but even if Alonso is against these religions too I wouldnt feel aggrieved unless he did something within his power to aggrieve me but I would like to think as a fan base if Alonso came in and said right no muslim, sikh, gay season ticket holders that majority of fans would boycott the games. I would certainly, as would most i hope kevinhectoring and DCFC1388 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Carnero said: An Indonesian consortium have been trying to buy Oxford recently: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/03/19/ex-inter-milan-owner-involved-oxford-united-consortium-takeover/amp/ The article includes references to the Indonesian Olympic Committee (of which Raja Sapta Oktohari is a member) and the former owner of Inter Milan & DC United from when Rooney was at DC United. I wonder if these stories are linked? ? 5 minutes ago, JfR said: When I was looking up Alonso earlier, I did see a couple of articles mentioning that he had links with DC United, I'll see if I can find one of them again It was in an article in the Athletic from the tail-end of last yearhttps://theathletic.co.uk/2290456/2020/12/30/sheffield-wednesday-pulis-sacked/ "Alonso, who has links to MLS outfit DC United, and his associates have been brought on board to assist with a range of matters including recruitment and youth development with the goal of restoring Wednesday’s status as a top-flight side. The Spaniard has experience in the football industry and counts Max Gradel, Emre Mor and Gonzalo Escalante among his clients. He is also the owner of Indonesian top-flight side Bali United." Carnero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, Inverurie Ram said: @loweman2and @Quangy are on the look out........ I quite like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, eezzeetiger said: I would certainly, as would most i hope As I would also if the prospective new owners were alleged drug smugglers /dealers / match fixers / money launderers and bakery burners. I certainly wouldn’t go on a rivals forum preaching. Foreveram, Will Hughes Hair and cstand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Arsene Titman said: I understood Kieran Maguire as saying that Oktohari was the money man behind the deal. There was no mention of a consortium, or even another person being involved in funding. As ever, one needs to invoke the Maguire caveat here, as in, he knows naff all, had no insight, essentially has being doing the same as the other analysis amateur sleuths here. Used Google, Wikipedia and various Sheffield Wednesday message boards... Carnero, cstand and Reggie Greenwood 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 When the story first broke in The Athletic, they stated that no debt or borrowing is said to be involved in the deal. Sounds promising in regards to their financial clout, and quite rare for recent takeovers - look at Burnley as an example. The Athletic clearly know what their talking about and have good sources - they even named the No Limits company. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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