Van der MoodHoover Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Curtains said: Always want you opinion mate right or wrong. Being a Derby fan is like being on a never ending roller coaster Cracking looking coaster - was under construction when I was there with MoodHoover jnr in Dec 2019? Never did I ever think that it could become a Rams metaphor. ? Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) Anyone listening to the phone in with Ed? Has he spoken to his mate Melvyn? Edited April 27, 2021 by EraniosSocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 22 hours ago, Asheville Ram said: Mel has invested well over £100 million in the club since he assumed overall control, the basic business of the club, is in my opinion not in a mess, we have a great ground , great academy and the commercial side of the businesses is very well run which as a previous tenant of an executive box at the ground I have very good first hand knowledge of. What is an issue is the unrealistic expectations and demands of a supporter base that expects the rams to win every game and if that does not happen to get their pitchforks out to drive the owner/manager/players out of the club/town. I believe the squandering of Mel's cash was a direct result of that pressure and the decisions of some previous senior executives. I would repeat what I have said before be careful what you wish for, because because both the fake sheik and the Alonso guy look far worse custodians of the club than Mel Morris, If I was Mel and getting this level of abuse I would liquidate and take whatever cash I could and spend the rest of my days with my feet up. You have your opinion I've got mine which is totally different to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Leeds Ram said: You don't care about the source of the money? Thus not knowing anything about the stability or security of the club... you would hope that the EFL would following a fit and proper test have verified the source of funds and Alonso as an owner, otherwise they will have another Wigan on their hands. even with the right funds etc I doubt if this is a long term fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_SJ Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 People are saying Mel has plenty of money and already spent a lot, I would point out he hasn't spent much but instead injected alot of money in to the club through loans to himself as well as giving the Stadium to himself in order to reduce that loan amount. The fact we are for sale for £60m, suggests Mel wants his loan to paid back upfront. Instead of selling the club for nothing(which is typical) and take on the clubs debts, which potentially is a risk for him if we went in to administration. We haven't posted our accounts in 2/3 years, which is always a scary sign as well The scary thing is that Mel apparently looked for help to buy that stadium back off the club, which is why there were reports of a land registry charge against the stadium We were walking a tightrope with FFP before Covid, unfortunately Covid hit us at the worse time imo since then we have had to get a loan on the training ground and apparently an additional loan on the stadium The best thing about the club is the fans, the fact we fill the stadium even when we are struggling, means its a revenue stream you could rely on. Right now it would be better to lease Mickleover Sports Ground than Pride Park. I fear if we get relegated, we go in to the same situation as Coventry unable to pay rent on a stadium we don't own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Ash_SJ said: The fact we are for sale for £60m, suggests Mel wants his loan to paid back upfront. Instead of selling the club for nothing(which is typical) and take on the clubs debts, which potentially is a risk for him if we went in to administration. Do you really think people would give a football club away if there isn't any debt? 8 hours ago, Ash_SJ said: We haven't posted our accounts in 2/3 years, which is always a scary sign as well We can't post our accounts until the EFL appeal is complete. If we posted our accounts using the same amortisation policy then get found guilty we will get more EFL charges. So we need to wait for the outcome so we can file the accounts correctly. Rest of your post is just wild speculation of the worse case scenario without any facts to back it up. r_wilcockson, Mr. P, Betty Swollocks and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Phoenix said: Somewhere in that area. These labels are often given for IQ scores: 1 to 24: Profound mental disability 25 to 39: Severe mental disability 40 to 54: Moderate mental disability 55 to 69: Mild mental disability 70 to 84: Borderline mental disability 85 to 114: Average intelligence 115 to 129: Above average; bright 130 to 144: Moderately gifted 145 to 159: Highly gifted 160 to 179: Exceptionally gifted Those aren't IQ scores, they are based on Standard Deviations from the IQ score. Everywhere I've read, even a border collie would score about 70 on an IQ test. If they could hold the pen. Even a brick would score above 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Ash_SJ said: I fear if we get relegated, we go in to the same situation as Coventry unable to pay rent on a stadium we don't own. Our ground is owned by Mel - Who is a Derby fan (and has shown that by pouring his money down the pipes trying to do good things for the club) Coventry's ground was mostly owned by the council - Who decided they weren't in a position to keep doing them a favour Our ground is owned by a chap who seems to indicate he's willing to do the club plenty of favours - So no doubt he'll provide a structured deal on rental based on game attendances (or something similar) 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: Those aren't IQ scores, they are based on Standard Deviations from the IQ score. Everywhere I've read, even a border collie would score about 70 on an IQ test. If they could hold the pen. Even a brick would score above 1. What about an exceptionally gifted brick? GboroRam and Betty Swollocks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Our ground is owned by Mel - Who is a Derby fan (and has shown that by pouring his money down the pipes trying to do good things for the club) Coventry's ground was mostly owned by the council - Who decided they weren't in a position to keep doing them a favour Our ground is owned by a chap who seems to indicate he's willing to do the club plenty of favours - So no doubt he'll provide a structured deal on rental based on game attendances (or something similar) What about an exceptionally gifted brick? No comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Ash_SJ said: People are saying Mel has plenty of money and already spent a lot, I would point out he hasn't spent much but instead injected alot of money in to the club through loans to himself as well as giving the Stadium to himself in order to reduce that loan amount. The fact we are for sale for £60m, suggests Mel wants his loan to paid back upfront. Instead of selling the club for nothing(which is typical) and take on the clubs debts, which potentially is a risk for him if we went in to administration. We haven't posted our accounts in 2/3 years, which is always a scary sign as well The scary thing is that Mel apparently looked for help to buy that stadium back off the club, which is why there were reports of a land registry charge against the stadium We were walking a tightrope with FFP before Covid, unfortunately Covid hit us at the worse time imo since then we have had to get a loan on the training ground and apparently an additional loan on the stadium The best thing about the club is the fans, the fact we fill the stadium even when we are struggling, means its a revenue stream you could rely on. Right now it would be better to lease Mickleover Sports Ground than Pride Park. I fear if we get relegated, we go in to the same situation as Coventry unable to pay rent on a stadium we don't own. What loans are you referring to? From the 2018 accounts, there was no change in loans due despite the stadium sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles the ram Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Now that Daniel Ek states he has secured money to buy Arsenal, can we ask him for some loose change to buy us? He doesn't want to buy a club whose not going to be in the top 4 places in the Premiership for years. Invest in ours and you will get your wish and financial reward in a few years!! Oh how I wish this could happen!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 27/04/2021 at 22:49, Ash_SJ said: People are saying Mel has plenty of money and already spent a lot, I would point out he hasn't spent much but instead injected alot of money in to the club through loans to himself Do you have anything to back this up? Any information available in the public domain does not support this. On 27/04/2021 at 22:49, Ash_SJ said: The fact we are for sale for £60m, suggests Mel wants his loan to paid back upfront. Instead of selling the club for nothing(which is typical) and take on the clubs debts, which potentially is a risk for him if we went in to administration. Really not sure how you have concluded this. On 27/04/2021 at 22:49, Ash_SJ said: We haven't posted our accounts in 2/3 years, which is always a scary sign as well The reason behind this has been explained already. On 27/04/2021 at 22:49, Ash_SJ said: The scary thing is that Mel apparently looked for help to buy that stadium back off the club, which is why there were reports of a land registry charge against the stadium Dont understand what is scary about this? Is it any different to the fact that Pride Park had a mortgage on the ground when MM took over the club? rynny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 The Athletic to announce later this morning that the new owner has been approved and has announced Jose Mourinho as our new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: The Athletic to announce later this morning that the new owner has been approved and has announced Jose Mourinho as our new manager. Says a lot about the last few years at Derby that I have no idea if you are joking or not!!!! Steve How Hard?, Anag Ram, Rammy03 and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Use this thread to discuss points deductions/appeals and other EFL nonsense. We'll keep the takeover chat here as on topic. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 As this is the Takeover thread I’ll post what Steve Nicholson’s been saying. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/erik-alonso-Derby-county-takeover-5350201 It’s not much but it’s something I suppose Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 If Alonso has signed a binding contract even if we go down, can't he just threaten to do what BZI did and drag it out unless Mel sacks Rooney and Co. I'm desperate Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Erik Alonso on the takeover right now: Ramarena, eezzeetiger and Coneheadjohn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Alonso been pretty active on Twitter today during the match Ibby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 minute ago, DCFC1388 said: Alonso been pretty active on Twitter today during the match Commenting how crap we are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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