De22Ram Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I like him, think hes doing alright for us! Just thinking though, what type of manager is he? Im not at the club but from my point of view from the outside looking in it seems like rosenior and mclaren might be running the show and rooneys overseeing things! An old skool manager type like ferguson! Thoughts? ? apologise if this has already been in a topic, probably has lol! How much is rooney actually doing? is he just here to drum up publicity etc? would he better on the pitch? is he ? the next sir alex and going to build a legacy at Derby for the next ten years and ill be digging out my passport in a few years ? up the rams!!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, De22Ram said: is he ? the next sir alex and going to build a legacy at Derby for the next ten years and ill be digging out my passport in a few years Most definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 How much is rooney actually doing? None of us know, but things have massively improved since he took sole charge so whatever he and his staff are doing is working fairly well currently. is he just here to drum up publicity etc? I doubt Mel and the potential new owners would risk relegation and a massive loss of money for a bit of publicity. Maybe when we signed him as a player initially it might have been a factor after Mel saw the increased attention Lampard brought, but he earned the right to be appointed permanent manager with the results whilst he was caretaker manager. would he better on the pitch? No. He's still probably the most talented individual at the club, but he just doesn't have the energy to keep up anymore and we don't have good enough players to carry him through games just for the odd wonder-pass he can pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoxallRam Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 It’s working. We’re definitely a better team and we’re winning games / picking up points via different ways. So I don’t mind who’s running the show as long as it keeps going in this direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I think his broad philosophy is speed down the wings and crosses into the box No specific system in mind, tactically flexible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslaar Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, De22Ram said: I like him, think hes doing alright for us! Just thinking though, what type of manager is he? Im not at the club but from my point of view from the outside looking in it seems like rosenior and mclaren might be running the show and rooneys overseeing things! An old skool manager type like ferguson! Thoughts? ? apologise if this has already been in a topic, probably has lol! How much is rooney actually doing? is he just here to drum up publicity etc? would he better on the pitch? is he ? the next sir alex and going to build a legacy at Derby for the next ten years and ill be digging out my passport in a few years ? up the rams!!! ? While I understand what your saying rooney does not strike me as a man that just oversees this kind of thing.lets not forget he stopped playing to do this and a club that at the time looked destined for relegation.whilst I'm sure both mac and liam have a lot of input in regards to advising rooney.the way he talks I have no doubt in my mind this is very much rooney in charge. Rooney could leave tomorrow and there would be plenty of clubs that would give him a chance even before he dipped his toe in with us. How long we keep him for is another thing but I get the feeling he is more than happy to continue to cut his teeth at this club until he can make it a success.he will have seem what lampard did and know that the great jobs will continue to come around on this football merry go round. So I'm sure hes in no rush. If he makes us a success give where we were will only strengthen his CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Why would you think Mac is 'running the show' - absolutely nothing would suggest that. Every clip I see is Rooney on the training pitch talking to players. I've been so impressed with his transition to management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De22Ram Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, rammieib said: Why would you think Mac is 'running the show' - absolutely nothing would suggest that. Every clip I see is Rooney on the training pitch talking to players. I've been so impressed with his transition to management. Yeah fair play, im just throwing it out there to be honest, playing devils advocate! I dont know whats going on behing the scenes! Intrested to see what everyone else thinks! Havent seen clips of training ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Think its disrespectful to the job he is doing to say hes letting mac snd rosenier run things. Rooney is clearly the main man and uses his coaching staff how he sees fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
England Ram Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 His explanation yesterday and the day before was spot on for me. He explained that he’s taking bits from Fergie, Van Gall, Morinio and McClarren and is being his own man. He listens to his coaching staff, he listens to Mac but particularly when dealing or managing upwards. His first thought and words to the playing staff were (ish) ‘if you want to play for me you’ve got to work hard, if you don’t want to do that then leave now, you work hard or you won’t play for me or this club’. That sets his tone nicely. From all of his interviews he’s shown he wants his players to do their jobs and play up to their potential. Be brave, make positive decisions and always work hard. He speaks to players individually and tells them what he wants from them. Gregory yesterday is a great example of this. He took him off at half time v Huddersfield and explained that he’d spoken to him about using his energy in the right way and making a difference. He comes on yesterday and presses well, harries well and made a good team up with Kaz. Wayne then rightly praises him for his performance. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistaston Ram Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 If he is using the experience of those around him, then surely that is positive. It's a team game on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, England Ram said: His explanation yesterday and the day before was spot on for me. He explained that he’s taking bits from Fergie, Van Gall, Morinio and McClarren and is being his own man. He listens to his coaching staff, he listens to Mac but particularly when dealing or managing upwards. His first thought and words to the playing staff were (ish) ‘if you want to play for me you’ve got to work hard, if you don’t want to do that then leave now, you work hard or you won’t play for me or this club’. That sets his tone nicely. From all of his interviews he’s shown he wants his players to do their jobs and play up to their potential. Be brave, make positive decisions and always work hard. He speaks to players individually and tells them what he wants from them. Gregory yesterday is a great example of this. He took him off at half time v Huddersfield and explained that he’d spoken to him about using his energy in the right way and making a difference. He comes on yesterday and presses well, harries well and made a good team up with Kaz. Wayne then rightly praises him for his performance. Job done. I thought that Sky interview pre-game was excellent. I would like to listen to it again without the pre-match nerves if anyone has a link? It's the first time I have heard him speak about what he thought his limitations were when playing for us, compelling and honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, England Ram said: His explanation yesterday and the day before was spot on for me. He explained that he’s taking bits from Fergie, Van Gall, Morinio and McClarren and is being his own man. He listens to his coaching staff, he listens to Mac but particularly when dealing or managing upwards. His first thought and words to the playing staff were (ish) ‘if you want to play for me you’ve got to work hard, if you don’t want to do that then leave now, you work hard or you won’t play for me or this club’. That sets his tone nicely. From all of his interviews he’s shown he wants his players to do their jobs and play up to their potential. Be brave, make positive decisions and always work hard. He speaks to players individually and tells them what he wants from them. Gregory yesterday is a great example of this. He took him off at half time v Huddersfield and explained that he’d spoken to him about using his energy in the right way and making a difference. He comes on yesterday and presses well, harries well and made a good team up with Kaz. Wayne then rightly praises him for his performance. Job done. Nail on the head man management is key to a good manager I don’t need to give examples of some of the best ... we all know them but it’s really encouraging to see how he’s handling individuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Cam the Ram said: How much is rooney actually doing? None of us know, but things have massively improved since he took sole charge so whatever he and his staff are doing is working fairly well currently. is he just here to drum up publicity etc? I doubt Mel and the potential new owners would risk relegation and a massive loss of money for a bit of publicity. Maybe when we signed him as a player initially it might have been a factor after Mel saw the increased attention Lampard brought, but he earned the right to be appointed permanent manager with the results whilst he was caretaker manager. would he better on the pitch? No. He's still probably the most talented individual at the club, but he just doesn't have the energy to keep up anymore and we don't have good enough players to carry him through games just for the odd wonder-pass he can pull off. I'd love us to enable the rule like American football where you could bring a set piece specialist on, he'd still bang the free kicks in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 This isn't Mac style football is it? Rooney's running the show here although I'm sure Steve is having some overall input,it's clear that wazza and his touchline coaches are in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I can't say the football is really compelling...but that is quite reassuring. He isn't going Hollywood, buying strikers, trying fancy formations and scoring tons of goals. He is making us hard to beat, steady and functional. Its surprisingly sensible and unexpected for me. Think his post match analysis is spot on so far. The way he sees the performances has been very similar to the way I have with no shifting of attention. He will criticise players without it seeming disingenuous and with a bigger agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Very difficult to tell Rooney’s preferred style based on what we’ve seen so far, he seems to mix things up every match! Not necessarily a bad thing being adaptable, but we do have to be careful not to overly confuse the players. My guess would be he’s more of an old fashioned pragmatist, get results no matter how they come, type manager - probably closer to a Gary Rowett than a Steve McClaren. Those managers have of course been successful in this division in the past - you can look at Warnock and McCarthy for evidence of that. All I care about is Derby winning, so as long as that’s happening, it’s fine with me. In answer to those questions... How much is Rooney doing? Well, he’s the manager, so he’s ultimately responsible for everything, good or bad, which is happening on the pitch. Rosenior will be helping him of course, and McClaren will be working with him doing whatever he’s meant to be doing, but Rooney will be the man making all the decisions, so he’s the one we should be talking about. Praise/criticism should be headed his way, not diverted toward anyone else. Is he just here to drum up publicity? No, I very much doubt it. He’s not on the pitch anymore, he’s the manager, so what he did as a player isn’t so relevant anymore. I suspect he’s here because he’s the only one who would take the job on considering our off the pitch mess. Would he be better on the pitch? No, definitely not. He was woeful after lockdown last season, even he’s admitted now that he was finished as a player this season. Will he be here for the next 10 years? No chance. As I’ve said before, managers don’t stay at clubs long term anymore. I’ll be surprised if he’s not gone by the end of next season, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 20 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: This isn't Mac style football is it? Rooney's running the show here although I'm sure Steve is having some overall input,it's clear that wazza and his touchline coaches are in charge. It certainly is not Mac's football. Not even closely as easy on eye, but I guess it brings about as many points though? (not factchecked, just assumption) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The spectre of relegation has changed my opinion on playing in this league. The teams that get promoted automatically get the most points. It matters less to me than at any other time that we get the points irrespective of how we play. We have been denied promotion because we lost so many points against teams with that mentality. Win the game then discuss the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Rampage said: It matters less to me than at any other time that we get the points irrespective of how we play. We have been denied promotion because we lost so many points against teams with that mentality. Win the game then discuss the football. I for one have actually enjoyed watching Derby again under Rooney. It's far better than boring Cocu ball and we're winning games most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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