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What's the situation with pitbulls in England?


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7 minutes ago, Cisse said:

In Finland a lot of people want to ban them and some other breeds too. Pitbulls are considered so dangerous and yet I haven't met an angry one yet at 50 years old. Are pitbulls disliked there too?

Here's in my mind a typical pitbull.

 

Some have genetical brain issues that cause them to switch to vicious behaviour. Some are treated badly and then rescued and later on switch. Mainly though, I’ve known real dog lovers own them and them being loving, loyal, docile and cuddly family friendly dogs. Basically they are like humans on the spectrum of behaviour. 

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12 minutes ago, Cisse said:

In Finland a lot of people want to ban them and some other breeds too. Pitbulls are considered so dangerous and yet I haven't met an angry one yet at 50 years old. Are pitbulls disliked there too?

Here's in my mind a typical pitbull.

 

Pitbulls have been banned in the UK since 1991.

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We have four breeds of dogs banned in the UK Cisse. 

https://wamiz.co.uk/dog/advice/18085/banned-dogs-in-the-uk

In my experience/opinion bad or dangerous dogs predominantly have lousy stupid owners who have certain breeds as a kind of trophy or to enhance their image as rufty tufty hard men (as it is usually always men who own these dogs.)

I have had the pleasure of co owning two Old English Sheepdogs, two Bullmastiffs, a Labradoodle and currently a Jack Russell and a Rottweiler. 

I have found our dogs give out what we put in and that’s loads of love, fun and exercise with a drop of discipline early on in their lives.

Our Rottweiler is popular in our village, everybody knows her name and comes up to make a fuss of her and she loves it yet the breed still suffers a bad image due to the fools that owned them around the 80’s and 90’s. It’s a shame as they are a smashing dog that really want to please their owners.

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5 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said:

We have four breeds of dogs banned in the UK Cisse. 

https://wamiz.co.uk/dog/advice/18085/banned-dogs-in-the-uk

In my experience/opinion bad or dangerous dogs predominantly have lousy stupid owners who have certain breeds as a kind of trophy or to enhance their image as rufty tufty hard men (as it is usually always men who own these dogs.)

I have had the pleasure of co owning two Old English Sheepdogs, two Bullmastiffs, a Labradoodle and currently a Jack Russell and a Rottweiler. 

I have found our dogs give out what we put in and that’s loads of love, fun and exercise with a drop of discipline early on in their lives.

Our Rottweiler is popular in our village, everybody knows her name and comes up to make a fuss of her and she loves it yet the breed still suffers a bad image due to the fools that owned them around the 80’s and 90’s. It’s a shame as they are a smashing dog that really want to please their owners.

Dave has worked wonders for the reputation of rottweilers in the UK:

 

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1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said:

Some have genetical brain issues that cause them to switch to vicious behaviour. Some are treated badly and then rescued and later on switch. Mainly though, I’ve known real dog lovers own them and them being loving, loyal, docile and cuddly family friendly dogs. Basically they are like humans on the spectrum of behaviour. 

Are these pit bulls your talking about of staffies?

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Many think staffies are nasty yet some and some are not. A few years ago my mum was not feeling to good and my dad was at work. And this young kill with jet black staffie raced over and went to attack my dog if I had not got him in less few seconds it would have killed him. But it ripped my old coat and got by it collar while shaking my arms and said to you girl but on a lead or f muscle on it and all I got was he needs a walk and a run as well. I frankly could not wait to get home but my little was screaming checking it had not got him. He was just scared it took ages carm him down.

But yet two of his best friends are staffies and he loves them and they love him.

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Staffies are beautiful animals. They are prone to being dog aggressive sometimes when they get past puppyhood because of their breeding so need socialising as pups then they're ???. You can usually look to the owner to find the cause of a dog's bad behaviour.

Dunno about pit bulls though. I think bull breeds have generally attracted absolute dill hole owners. 

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I have had 2 Bull Mastiffs of the "Mastiff type dog attacks..." headlines 

Mine have been so soft and gentle around the house that sometimes I wish they'd man up. I've raised my 2 girls with them and although never left alone both dogs have show nothing but love to the Children. 

Absolute nightmare to play fight with but if the one I have now even growled at a human I'd be shocked. Some dogs snap at him and most the time he don't care. 

No dog classes or anything. Just clear rules and firm tellings off. Easy. You get out what you put in. 

Never seen a Pitbull here but I can't imagine it's different to any other dog? 

More like the idiots that giant dog breeds attract. Doberman, Rottweiler, Mastiff, Staffordshire Bull terrier etc... tough dogs for tough men!! 

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7 hours ago, Cisse said:

In Finland a lot of people want to ban them and some other breeds too. Pitbulls are considered so dangerous and yet I haven't met an angry one yet at 50 years old. Are pitbulls disliked there too?

Here's in my mind a typical pitbull.

 

Love this! They are clearly the very best of pals. My tuppeny's worth is that while some breeds are obviously very capable of being more than a handful, loving owners tend to have loving dogs. An absolute dhead dealer I knew back in the day had a mastiff bitch who he ritually abused to try and get her to be more aggressive towards other people. She wouldn't have it though and after years of torment she eventually went for him, though even then she kinda pinned him down rather than trying to do any real damage. We took her off his hands and she got homed with some good folk and spent the rest of her days trying to convince herself and her new owners she was a lapdog! It was lovely to see the change in her though it did take a good few weeks of loving attention before she realised she wasn't going to get beaten every day. 

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I get it that pit bulls etc are well behaved if treated and trained well but, there are so many breeds of dogs to choose from, as well as rescue dogs. I don't really follow why anyone would buy a potentially dangerous dog, especially if they have children.  

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We have a couple of Cane Corso's (aka Italian Mastiff) in the wider family (together in the same household).

Absolute dopes!  Brainless! Soft as poo!  Great with the grandkids and their friends.

But they are massive.  They are very slobbery.  And VERY, VERY STRONG/POWERFUL!

(We're not dog owners ourselves, and doubt we ever will be, as we couldn't commit our time and efforts to them in the way dog owners should).

 

The problem I have with dogs... if indeed I do actually have a problem with them, which I'm not convinced I have... is that whether they are labelled "dangerous" or not, every time we hear of an attack, be that with other dogs, owners, passers-by, or worst of all, the families kids/babies, it always seems to be a case of "Well, they've never done that before!  We are responsible owners.  The dog has been well trained, and has always been part of the family, surrounded by kids" etc.

I guess that ultimately, regardless of how good a dog-owner folk think they are, they need to keep on the ball, with one eye permanently on the dog(s), and be prepared for the worse, because when that happens, it is more often than not, too late!  

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Many ways it is not the dog fault but what happened in the past. Like one Time down our local part me and my mum saw this little girl go up and kicked the dog as hard as she could so when went passed her I bent down and said you hobble little girl and dad of the little girl did not even tell her off and my mum said if that dog bites someone it is your fault not the dogs fault.

 

But yet they come you best friend and very very loyal to you and they are part of the family.

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