Archied Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Wolfie said: That's certainly the case in our company. The owners would certainly like everyone back in the office but I think this last year has shown that it's possible for half the workforce to work from home without the company suffering as a result. I've been back full time office based since last September, through choice - and possibly against the official guidance but I've agreed with my team that once the "work from home if you can" message is gone, that I want each of them in the office at least one regular day a week, plus as-and-when required. I expect it to be maybe 2 days a week on average office based for them and they all have 45-60 minute commutes. They are happy with that and are working well, so it's a win-win as far as I can see. I’m sure with the right staff and right situation it can work very well, there’s also the consideration this could turn into a real nightmare for lots of companies and employers as seen already on here the attitude towards an employer who may not want to go down the work from home route ??♂️, gonna be interesting to see how this pans out longer term , not least once the outsourcing begins I’m expecting some screaming further down the line but hey it may not turn out to be turkey’s voting for Christmas ??♂️ Edited July 1, 2021 by Archied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What's your main point? I suppose my main points are as follows: We have to learn to live with Covid-19 No amount of wishful thinking will make it go away. You can mitigate your risk WhiteHorseRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Eddie said: I suppose my main points are as follows: We have to learn to live with Covid-19 No amount of wishful thinking will make it go away. You can mitigate your risk Ah okay, I totally agree. To which end it seems like booster jabs & flu jabs will be the order of the winter season. WhiteHorseRam and Eddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Eddie said: I suppose my main points are as follows: We have to learn to live with Covid-19 No amount of wishful thinking will make it go away. You can mitigate your risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Fair play ? JoetheRam and EtoileSportiveDeDerby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, maxjam said: Fair play ? If you can fake them with a bit of lemon juice it begs the question of how much use are these tests anyway, other countries have binned them and we are using them to close down vast swathes of our lives?♂️ Bald Eagle's Barmy Army and maxjam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, maxjam said: Fair play ? Got to love the media - an outrage story about how "TikTok is teaching UK teenagers to fake postive covid tests..." and how "massively unhelpful" it is to be spreading this sort of information around Erm - don't run a story on it then? maxjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 hours ago, TexasRam said: Nope, he’s an adult and should know better Whilst the geezer was a total mug and his mate as well.. Not sure there are grounds to dismiss him from his job. He's got what is actions deserved but the company was wrong (legally) to dismiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Whilst the geezer was a total mug and his mate as well.. Not sure there are grounds to dismiss him from his job. He's got what is actions deserved but the company was wrong (legally) to dismiss. Yeah maybe you’re right I’m not sure where the line is legally with employment law. Edited July 1, 2021 by TexasRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Eddie said: Using the same dates as I used before, new hospital admissions (Covid-19 confirmed, England only): 14 May - 72 22 May - 75 30 May - 80 6 June - 121 14 June - 185 22 June - 182 28 June - 244* * the figures for hospital admissions for 30 June are not yet collated, so for completeness, I have taken the most recent available So basically a 3-fold increase in new admissions, compared to a 12-fold increase in new cases over the same period. With respect to your point about 'lesser' symptoms, a reasonable way of looking at those figures might be to look at the total number of patients undergoing 'mechanical ventilation' in hospital. These figures were showing a slow but downward trend as more and more, the most vulnerable were becoming vaccinated - and then they started rising again. 12 April - 337 20 April - 273 28 April - 188 6 May - 144 14 May - 115 22 May - 113 30 May - 115 6 June - 131 14 June - 170 22 June - 229 30 June - 264 Again, there was a striking inflexion, lagging a week or so after 'something' happened during mid-May. 244 hospital admissions against 50,000 cases shows the vaccine is doing its job. The only reason restrictions should be maintained is if there is an issue with capacity for health services which these figures show we're nowhere near at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Angry Ram said: Whilst the geezer was a total mug and his mate as well.. Not sure there are grounds to dismiss him from his job. He's got what is actions deserved but the company was wrong (legally) to dismiss. He was meant to be showing a client around a property at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rev said: He was meant to be showing a client around a property at the time. Was it a pub in Derby by the name of the joiners arms by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leeds Ram said: 244 hospital admissions against 50,000 cases shows the vaccine is doing its job. The only reason restrictions should be maintained is if there is an issue with capacity for health services which these figures show we're nowhere near at. Is there a case to say along with vaccine a large number who were vulnerable to the virus have already been seriously ill or lost their lives ? There must be massive numbers that have had covid now whether tested or unknowingly Edited July 1, 2021 by Archied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Archied said: Think I read that he suffers from adhd and autism , do we cut any slack ? Not from me. If Chris Whitty was a right hard bar steward that liked knocking nobheads around for his kicks I might, but to harass and embarrass a mild mannered bloke going about his business ? Nah, hope he gets plenty of time to reflect on his behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 53 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: 244 hospital admissions against 50,000 cases shows the vaccine is doing its job. The only reason restrictions should be maintained is if there is an issue with capacity for health services which these figures show we're nowhere near at. Not disputing that at all. I am just highlighting absolute figures, putting no spin whatsoever on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: Not from me. If Chris Whitty was a right hard bar steward that liked knocking nobheads around for his kicks I might, but to harass and embarrass a mild mannered bloke going about his business ? Nah, hope he gets plenty of time to reflect on his behaviour. Just interested if we all cast our stone’s evenly, with say the likes of a Tom Lawrence , mason Bennett or Richard keough for instance , who did and didn’t lose their livelihood s ??♂️, personally think the adhd autism stuff is an attempted get out but it does raise an interesting question as I’m sure on perhaps other incidents I would be trashed badly for stating that Pearl Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Rev said: He was meant to be showing a client around a property at the time. Was he? Not what I heard but not going to argue if that has come out today and is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Was he? Not what I heard but not going to argue if that has come out today and is true. At 7:30 on a Sunday evening it sounds very unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Was he? Not what I heard but not going to argue if that has come out today and is true. Nah, just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 350,000 school pupils being denied a proper education due to 15,000 positive tests. Meanwhile top executives and UEFA bigwigs are free to play by their own set of rules. Hints that schools may continue with restrictions post July 19 too. This is no longer just unfortunate and sad, its a bloody outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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