ariotofmyown Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I saw on the news last night that America are having exactly the same problems as us, have they left the EU too? I would have thought the pandemic was the more likely link? That's US off the list then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Based on? Didn't we have to lockdown even when masks were mandatory? Based on nothing apart from press bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 hours ago, sage said: If we don't make masks mandatory by the end of the month, we will end up with another lockdown by the end of the year. And if we don’t have another lockdown by the end of the year will end up with another lockdown next year??♂️ I see there are predictions of 70 k flu deaths this year linked to the supposed non existence of flu last year due to covid measures ,over 70 k deaths in the home not from covid during covid measures, countless deaths going forward from other causes due to covid measures , supposed millions of deaths from climate change stated on here , can’t we just pass a law against dieing ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I know the whole B word debate is in the past, but whichever way you voted, the implementation has been dire. The lack of planning is just abysmal. Starting to consider leaving this country, but not sure where too. Your lack of planning is abysmal. ariotofmyown, Archied, QuitYourJibbaJivin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: I know the whole B word debate is in the past, but whichever way you voted, the implementation has been dire. The lack of planning is just abysmal. Starting to consider leaving this country, but not sure where too. Seeing as we're in the coronavirus thread, how about Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 hours ago, 1of4 said: So it's not lack of drivers, that's holding up the supply chains. It's the ports being unable to process the shipping containers from ship to lorry quick enough. Is this due to the inability of the cranes, shunting trucks, ect. to move the containers fast enough or is it like with many businesses, down to the amount of paperwork that has to be completed before anything can happen? It's the whole process, you could always do with more drivers but you need to use the ones you do have more effectively and not leave them sitting around for hours on end. Some ports have more technology to assist in the processing of containers, London Gateway for example is pretty new. The whole world has a problem with the supply chain and the recovery from Covid. The shipping lines are profiteering and that is pushing costs through the roof. The paperwork has not changed when you are importing from Asia and India etc. There is always loads of it but the UK does have one of the most efficient customs systems where everything is electronic bar a few documents that still need to be presented. So no, paperwork, is not the issue. It's volumes and speed. Felixstowe, I believe was suffering from 1000s of Gov containers containing PPE that were left quayside. The USA is suffering huge delays at places like San Diego and LA as well. 1967Ram, ariotofmyown and 1of4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 11 hours ago, sage said: If we don't make masks mandatory by the end of the month, we will end up with another lockdown by the end of the year. There doesn't seem to be much change in hospital admissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, i-Ram said: Your lack of planning is abysmal. I think it shows quite a good lack of planning. Tamworthram and i-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: There doesn't seem to be much change in hospital admissions Cases have just started going up again. Admissions will follow. Then deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, maxjam said: Seeing as we're in the coronavirus thread, how about Australia? Nah too far from anywhere else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I was at a glitzy industry awards dinner last night in London. Accepting an award, actually, but one doesn't like to brag?. Anyway, 400 odd people in a hotel function suite, no social distancing (though there was a decent gap between tables), no masks. It was bloody brilliant to be "normal" again. Made a few good new contacts. So much better face-to-face. I'll be doing a couple of LFT's over the weekend, just in case. BTW both of my parents ended up catching it in the last couple of weeks. Last day of isolation is today and apart from a slight lingering cough for my mum, they've both had 3-4 days of relatively mild flu symptoms. Both late 70's & double jabbed. Archied and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, sage said: Cases have just started going up again. Admissions will follow. Then deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 12 hours ago, sage said: If we don't make masks mandatory by the end of the month, we will end up with another lockdown by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, TexasRam said: again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: There doesn't seem to be much change in hospital admissions show the same graph for the last 30 days as we enter winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, sage said: show the same graph for the last 30 days as we enter winter Reasonably flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, sage said: Cases have just started going up again. Admissions will follow. Then deaths. I’m not so sure it will follow the same correlation this time. I can only comment anecdotally but I know far more people now who have contracted Covid than in the 1st and 2nd wave (including myself). Of all those I know have had it, although Ill for a few days not one needed hospitalisation. The majority were double jabbed, so maybe it will do its job and we won’t see so much adverse effects of the virus this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 minute ago, TexasRam said: I’m not so sure it will follow the same correlation this time. I can only comment anecdotally but I know far more people now who have contracted Covid than in the 1st and 2nd wave (including myself). Of all those I know have had it, although Ill for a few days not one needed hospitalisation. The majority were double jabbed, so maybe it will do its job and we won’t see so much adverse effects of the virus this time. I really hope not. The added issue is the amount of NHS staff that are off or isolating. That also puts strain on the NHS. We already have 4 hour waits in A&E. The worst since records began. What is wrong about wearing masks in shops and on public transport? How does it affect the individual and the economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Reasonably flat its gone up around 20% in the last 30 days. As we are also potentially looking at a really bad flu season , what is wrong with wearing masks in shops and on public transport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, sage said: I really hope not. The added issue is the amount of NHS staff that are off or isolating. That also puts strain on the NHS. We already have 4 hour waits in A&E. The worst since records began. What is wrong about wearing masks in shops and on public transport? How does it affect the individual and the economy? Nothing wrong with it if that’s what people want to do. I personally don’t think it should be mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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