The coronabrexit thread. I mean, coronavirus thread

[Bob The Badger]

2 hours ago, David said:

Whilst you have to register to post, this is still classed as a public forum. Everything can be read from kids, to players and Police.

Running private Facebook groups isn't really comparable as we have running costs to consider, many of the forum rules are in place from advertising partners. 

I've had several warnings from Google over the years for sexual content which at times has been nothing more than a bikini.

We do display some adverts for Derby County which despite popular belief have come without any kind of content t&c's, however we do want to appeal to more local businesses that may.

We lose advertising, we lose the forum, simple as that so we have to moderate, and in fairness want to. The DET which became a free for all is a large part of why this forum exists today.

Facebook has its own terms, however unless someone in your private group starts to mass report content you are free to do as you please. 

I mean the Taliban have been using Facebook until recently banned.

These larger corporations get away with a lot more than us small fry, we have to be proactive with moderation where they can be reactive as it's a huge platform that advertisers will always return to.

Saying that the Police are starting to be more active in prosecuting for content posted online. I know for a fact that the Police check football forums regularly for potential issues at games, where fans are planning to meet up, rivalry etc.

The tl;dr to all this is basically moderation gives this forum a future that we want it to have.

I know we are well and truly off topic now, but I feel this is important.

This forum could easily be run without advertising.

I know you don't want to beg, but I for one would never have seen the donate button if @Rev hadn't posted it.

There are a lot of members I'm sure who would happily hand over a tenner or more.

Of course, many can't afford to and that is fine.

I'm on two Rams boards and donate every year to both because I value them.

Both give you a badge to say you have donated so that creates a certain level of social proof and also people don't post in blissful ignorance.

It's fine to tell people, look you really don't have to donate if you cannot afford it or don't think it's worthwhile.

I worked in sales for 20 years and  online marketing (predominantly SEO and copywriting for SEO)  for the last 10 and one of my biggest irritations is people thinking they're doing the right thing in not trying to sell themselves.

I worked for 3 multi-billion dollar, multi-national organisations who were pretty scummy in many respects. But I could sell ethically because I knew the products and services were really valuable.

I taught salespeople that if they didn't give people the opportunity to buy when they knew it could help, then they weren't being nice, they were letting their customers down.

As for Google issuing warnings for a woman in a bikini, well I'm utterly stunned. I have been blogging for 16 years and written over 2,500 articles for a multitude of websites and I've never heard anything like nless there was some how a backlink to some dubious site or it looked under age. 

You know my sense of humour by now and I have used lots of profanity and got very political on two of my sites (usually using humour tbf)  and never heard a peep. I've never had a client have a warning either.

And one of the boards I frequent posts stuff daily that is waaaay worse than that without issue.  

I've had warnings from Google in search console, but they're usually crawling errors or broken links.

I'm not trying to tell you how to run this board because what you're doing is working, I'm just offering opinions.

I think a thread started by you telling people they are welcome to support the board with a small donation IF THEY SO WISH so you can remove ads would be super successful going by the pages of people supporting you over the meeting fiasco.

I also doubt anybody worth worrying about would think you were begging or being greedy. 

And tbfh I had forgotten that site was public until @angieram mentioned it, so I get the kids may read it kind of thing. Makes perfect sense.

[Norman]

1 hour ago, Bob The Badger said:

I know we are well and truly off topic now, but I feel this is important.

This forum could easily be run without advertising.

I know you don't want to beg, but I for one would never have seen the donate button if @Rev hadn't posted it.

There are a lot of members I'm sure who would happily hand over a tenner or more.

Of course, many can't afford to and that is fine.

I'm on two Rams boards and donate every year to both because I value them.

Both give you a badge to say you have donated so that creates a certain level of social proof and also people don't post in blissful ignorance.

It's fine to tell people, look you really don't have to donate if you cannot afford it or don't think it's worthwhile.

I worked in sales for 20 years and  online marketing (predominantly SEO and copywriting for SEO)  for the last 10 and one of my biggest irritations is people thinking they're doing the right thing in not trying to sell themselves.

I worked for 3 multi-billion dollar, multi-national organisations who were pretty scummy in many respects. But I could sell ethically because I knew the products and services were really valuable.

I taught salespeople that if they didn't give people the opportunity to buy when they knew it could help, then they weren't being nice, they were letting their customers down.

As for Google issuing warnings for a woman in a bikini, well I'm utterly stunned. I have been blogging for 16 years and written over 2,500 articles for a multitude of websites and I've never heard anything like nless there was some how a backlink to some dubious site or it looked under age. 

You know my sense of humour by now and I have used lots of profanity and got very political on two of my sites (usually using humour tbf)  and never heard a peep. I've never had a client have a warning either.

And one of the boards I frequent posts stuff daily that is waaaay worse than that without issue.  

I've had warnings from Google in search console, but they're usually crawling errors or broken links.

I'm not trying to tell you how to run this board because what you're doing is working, I'm just offering opinions.

I think a thread started by you telling people they are welcome to support the board with a small donation IF THEY SO WISH so you can remove ads would be super successful going by the pages of people supporting you over the meeting fiasco.

I also doubt anybody worth worrying about would think you were begging or being greedy. 

And tbfh I had forgotten that site was public until @angieram mentioned it, so I get the kids may read it kind of thing. Makes perfect sense.

Sorry, it's a no from me. Whilst I admire your charity work, I'm looking for a man who's a bit more 'hands on' 

Good luck with what you're looking for, anyway. 

[Bob The Badger]

43 minutes ago, Norman said:

Sorry, it's a no from me. Whilst I admire your charity work, I'm looking for a man who's a bit more 'hands on' 

Good luck with what you're looking for, anyway. 

I don't really know what you mean tbh, but the only thing I'm looking for at the moment is my headphone charger.

Any clue where it is?

[Stive Pesley]

4 hours ago, Bob The Badger said:

As for Google issuing warnings for a woman in a bikini, well I'm utterly stunned. I have been blogging for 16 years and written over 2,500 articles for a multitude of websites and I've never heard anything like nless there was some how a backlink to some dubious site or it looked under age. 

I was transferring some old Super8 footage from the late 80s for a friend the other day and uploading it to youtube for him to preview and YT blocked one of the videos for nudity. I was baffled, but then it turned out that part of one of the reels was shot in a museum in Barcelona and it happened to pan past a statue of a topless woman. She had no head or arms like, and tits of marble, but it still triggered the porn censor!

[Bob The Badger]

27 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said:

I was transferring some old Super8 footage from the late 80s for a friend the other day and uploading it to youtube for him to preview and YT blocked one of the videos for nudity. I was baffled, but then it turned out that part of one of the reels was shot in a museum in Barcelona and it happened to pan past a statue of a topless woman. She had no head or arms like, and tits of marble, but it still triggered the porn censor!

That doesn't surprise me they're known to be tough and you're posting to their platform. 

Google can't make you take anything down they can only deindex you, which is incredibly rare. They're a search engine not a platform.

Your ISP or hosting company otoh can slap your wrists, but even then it's very unusual and you have to be seriously naughty. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by Bob The Badger

[QuitYourJibbaJivin]

 

[Eddie]

17 hours ago, Norman said:

Sorry, it's a no from me. Whilst I admire your charity work, I'm looking for a man who's a bit more 'hands on' 

Good luck with what you're looking for, anyway. 

A masseur?

[G STAR RAM]

22 hours ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said:

 

Was never going to happen and was just another sneaky way to try to force youngsters to get  vaccinated. Pathetic.

[Stive Pesley]

38 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Was never going to happen and was just another sneaky way to try to force youngsters to get  vaccinated. Pathetic.

Was a farce anyway - we went to an event last week where you had to show your vaccination status QR code from the NHS app, but there was no way for the people checking to verify that the QR matched the identity of the person presenting it. I don't even know how they could do that. So not exactly difficult to circumvent

Voter ID to be scrapped next please

 

 

 

[Angry Ram]

1 minute ago, Stive Pesley said:

Was a farce anyway - we went to an event last week where you had to show your vaccination status QR code from the NHS app, but there was no way for the people checking to verify that the QR matched the identity of the person presenting it. I don't even know how they could do that. So not exactly difficult to circumvent

Voter ID to be scrapped next please

 

 

 

The covid checks are a sham. Was at Wembley, was when I went to the theatre.. 

Don't agree with your last comment. We need more voter ID. 

[Stive Pesley]

31 minutes ago, Angry Ram said:

Don't agree with your last comment. We need more voter ID. 

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/our-views-and-research/our-research/electoral-fraud-data

Really you think we should spend countless millions on a voter ID system for a problem that doesn't exist?

I realise this is going off topic slightly and I doubt we will change each other's minds, but my original point was that the same reasons that a vaccine passport system is a stupid idea apply to the plans for voter ID

 Massively expensive and doesn't actually solve a problem

 

 

 

[Angry Ram]

53 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said:

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/our-views-and-research/our-research/electoral-fraud-data

Really you think we should spend countless millions on a voter ID system for a problem that doesn't exist?

I realise this is going off topic slightly and I doubt we will change each other's minds, but my original point was that the same reasons that a vaccine passport system is a stupid idea apply to the plans for voter ID

 Massively expensive and doesn't actually solve a problem

 

 

 

Does not need to cost millions, just show a photo ID when voting. I'm not overly bothered by a vaccine passport either way. 

[Wolfie]

2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Was never going to happen and was just another sneaky way to try to force youngsters to get  vaccinated. Pathetic.

I agree that it was never going to happen (said so at the time it was announced) but pathetic?. It worked. A bit of carrott and stick.

There's plenty that has been done since Feb 20 that could be called pathetic but for Boris & gang, this was uncharateristically shrewd IMO.

[ramsbottom]

1 hour ago, Angry Ram said:

The covid checks are a sham. Was at Wembley, was when I went to the theatre.. 

Don't agree with your last comment. We need more voter ID. 

Mate at work went to a west end show the other week, was told to bring proof of a jab with him, but it was never checked. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the whole thing now…

[Angry Ram]

2 minutes ago, ramsbottom said:

Mate at work went to a west end show the other week, was told to bring proof of a jab with him, but it was never checked. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the whole thing now…

Exactly.. I mentioned in a previous post, London is open. The theatre asked for proof but I could have shown the the electricity bill, just waived it in from of some student. No masks on the trains.. You're right, nobody give a toss now.

[ramsbottom]

3 minutes ago, Angry Ram said:

Exactly.. I mentioned in a previous post, London is open. The theatre asked for proof but I could have shown the the electricity bill, just waived it in from of some student. No masks on the trains.. You're right, nobody give a toss now.

The strangest thing is it seems to be the 60 year old + bracket that appear to have given up. I see tonnes without masks on my weekly shop. 

[RoyMac5]

2 hours ago, ramsbottom said:

The strangest thing is it seems to be the 60 year old + bracket that appear to have given up. I see tonnes without masks on my weekly shop. 

Vaccinated and not so much of their lives left to waste?

[G STAR RAM]

2 hours ago, Wolfie said:

I agree that it was never going to happen (said so at the time it was announced) but pathetic?. It worked. A bit of carrott and stick.

There's plenty that has been done since Feb 20 that could be called pathetic but for Boris & gang, this was uncharateristically shrewd IMO.

Having kept an eye on the graph showing the percentage of the population vaccinated, I would say the veiled threat has had very little if any impact.

Once again they have just undermined themselves and lost yet even more public confidence.

Of course they will now think they look like the heroes that have come to the rescue. 

[ketteringram]

3 hours ago, ramsbottom said:

Mate at work went to a west end show the other week, was told to bring proof of a jab with him, but it was never checked. Hardly anybody gives a toss about the whole thing now…

I flew from Stansted last week. You're supposed to get your proof of jab thing checked at departure gate. They scanned the boarding pass as normal, then asked if I had the proof of vaccination. I said yes, and before I could swipe from the boarding pass image, to the proof one, I was waved on through.

[Wolfie]

45 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Having kept an eye on the graph showing the percentage of the population vaccinated, I would say the veiled threat has had very little if any impact.

 

Impossible to reach that conclusion without knowing what would have happened otherwise, of course.