therealhantsram Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, rammieib said: 14th June = 32% 21st June = 40% 28th June = 70% 5th July = 44% 12th July = 25% That’s the week of week % increase over the last five weeks. Data from Gov website. That’s not exponential - that’s a slowing down!!! Youve conveniently missed the current weeks figure from that list. Which is 42 percent. My estimate earlier was around 50% week on week growth. Looking at your figures I was a little high. The average is axtually 42% week on week growth. So this last week is a bang average week of growth. So sadly the trend is not down. It's flat. In other words it is proportional to the number of people infected. And that is the text book definition of exponential growth. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Youve conveniently missed the current weeks figure from that list. Which is 42 percent. My estimate earlier was around 50% week on week growth. Looking at your figures I was a little high. The average is axtually 42% week on week growth. So this last week is a bang average week of growth. So sadly the trend is not down. It's flat. In other words it is proportional to the number of people infected. And that is the text book definition of exponential growth. You can throw out all the graphs and figures and spin the doom and gloom all you want ,, try throwing out the figures around how many people test positive for covid and not only survive but have no or next to no symptoms or nothing worse than flu ,,, that’s the great news and cause for optimism around this virus that first emerged with video s of people dropping down dead in the streets and people in hazmat suits scooping them up , it is duck all like the virus projected on us and it’s getting harder and harder to keep up the charade ??♂️ Edited July 19, 2021 by Archied Rammy03 and Mostyn6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Not sure if true and don't recall where I read or heard it today, but is it true that the UK is conducting as many daily tests as the rest of Europe combined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Archied said: You can throw out all the graphs and figures and spin the doom and gloom all you want ,, try throwing out the figures around how many people test positive for covid and not only survive but have no or next to no symptoms or nothing worse than flu ,,, that’s the great news and cause for optimism around this virus that first emerged with video s of people dropping down dead in the streets and people in hazmat suits scooping them up , it is duck all like the virus projected on us and it’s getting harder and harder to keep up the charade ??♂️ The only reason for this is because lots of people have been vaccinated! Don't you get it?!!! ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Not sure if true and don't recall where I read or heard it today, but is it true that the UK is conducting as many daily tests as the rest of Europe combined? Tests per day UK - 1.2 million a day. Rest of Europe - 1.1 million a day Covid has become a national obsession Edited July 19, 2021 by TexasRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Also anyone know why Patrick Vallance is talking about the results of Dutch and Israeli nightclub studies when we have carried out our own test pilot events which concluded there was no significant spread of the virus in this setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, TexasRam said: Tests per day UK - 1.2 million a day. Rest of Europe - 1.1 million a day We know that we have a large number of false positives, yet we still have people like James O'Brien stating that we are top of some sort of mythical league table of infections, yet he never mentions the number of tests. Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Not sure if true and don't recall where I read or heard it today, but is it true that the UK is conducting as many daily tests as the rest of Europe combined? Yep true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: The only reason for this is because lots of people have been vaccinated! Don't you get it?!!! The percentage of deaths way before vaccines was tiny ,,, don’t YOU get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Tests per day UK - 1.2 million a day. Rest of Europe - 1.1 million a day Covid has become a national obsession It’s big business ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Archied said: The percentage of deaths way before vaccines was tiny ,,, don’t YOU get it What was it? If YOU get it. The percentage of people that caught it? Different to now when vaccinations keep them from dying of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Also anyone know why Patrick Vallance is talking about the results of Dutch and Israeli nightclub studies when we have carried out our own test pilot events which concluded there was no significant spread of the virus in this setting? Is this one of those debates where you can't compare different geographical locations for Covid? For example, there is much more fingering in UK nightclubs. G STAR RAM, Mostyn6, Norman and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Is this one of those debates where you can't compare different geographical locations for Covid? For example, there is much more fingering in UK nightclubs. Its just another one of them things where the Government/Sage pluck something out of thin air to support their latest scheme. You have to wonder what the point of us carrying out test pilot events was if we are not going to use the results but instead use the findings from other coutries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What was it? If YOU get it. The percentage of people that caught it? Different to now when vaccinations keep them from dying of it! Less than 1 percent ,, we are 18 months in , in the third wave and if you believe official figures approx 128000 people have died within 28 days of a positive test from any cause ,,,, yep that s the official wording , not mine , from 70 million people , from day one the numbers have not justified the response v the damage to lives , deaths , and mental state imposed never even mind the economy Edited July 19, 2021 by Archied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Archied said: Less than 1 percent ,, we are 18 months in , in the third wave and if you believe official figures approx 128000 people have died within 28 days of a positive test from any cause ,,,, yep that s the official wording , not mine , 70 million people , from day one the numbers have not justified the response v the damage to lives , deaths , and mental state imposed never even mind the economy It only we had quickly implemented short, strict lockdowns. We could have saved loads of lives and mitigated against all those other problems you mention. An inquiry after the first lockdown would have told us that. By the time of the inquiry we'll be on long, half-arsed lockdown number 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: It only we had quickly implemented short, strict lockdowns. We could have saved loads of lives and mitigated against all those other problems you mention. An inquiry after the first lockdown would have told us that. By the time of the inquiry we'll be on long, half-arsed lockdown number 10. We had a 16 week? lockdown last year and a 6 month lockdown this year, maybe lockdowns aren't, and never have been, the way out of this. How come Australians are still finding themselves in lockdown if short sharp lockdowns were the answer? Gritstone Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: It only we had quickly implemented short, strict lockdowns. We could have saved loads of lives and mitigated against all those other problems you mention. An inquiry after the first lockdown would have told us that. By the time of the inquiry we'll be on long, half-arsed lockdown number 10. Sorry mate it’s just too far on now for me to even consider those kind of arguments , the whole thing becomes more ludicrous and incoherent day on day ,,, 18 months in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Its just another one of them things where the Government/Sage pluck something out of thin air to support their latest scheme. You have to wonder what the point of us carrying out test pilot events was if we are not going to use the results but instead use the findings from other coutries. Looking at the date of the article, test events were probably in mid may, which would be before Delta took hold and when infection rates were at a VERY different level to today. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Tests per day UK - 1.2 million a day. Rest of Europe - 1.1 million a day Covid has become a national obsession Basic demand curve. We are in the middle of a third wave here right now. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: We had a 16 week? lockdown last year and a 6 month lockdown this year, maybe lockdowns aren't, and never have been, the way out of this. How come Australians are still finding themselves in lockdown if short sharp lockdowns were the answer? Some areas of Australia are in lockdown. Most, if not all of the country has been much closer to normal than the UK since it all started. They screwed up the vaccine rollout though. We always locked down too late, which meant they went on longer. Cases dropped to almost nothing last summer, yet we were unable to develop a world beating system to deal quickly with outbreaks. Why didn't we just ask other countries for help and advice? The lockdowns since the first one have been half arsed too, so took longer to finish. A catalogue of errors apart from the vaccine rollout, helped by a compliant public, fearful of yet more terrible decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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