Tyler Durden Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: Can't be worse than Waghorn though I know what you're saying but it seems like there's degrees of crapness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Legitimately The. Sky pundits I think said that our goal would probably have been disallowed by VAR because CKR (offside) was interfering with play. But we could have had a pen for handball ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: I know what you're saying but it seems like there's degrees of crapness. yep. but Waghorn was right at the end of the scale tonight. I would happily start Sibley over him, or even Mitchell-Lawson. Anyway Jozwiak has to start on the left next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: The. Sky pundits I think said that our goal would probably have been disallowed by VAR because CKR (offside) was interfering with play. But we could have had a pen for handball ... Possibly. However, no shots on target all game probably means we didn't deserve too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Who would you put in instead of Waghorn. Not being contentious as think his recent few performances have been abysmal. Sibley left. Jozwiak right. the rest are all poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: The. Sky pundits I think said that our goal would probably have been disallowed by VAR because CKR (offside) was interfering with play. But we could have had a pen for handball ... Must have missed the pen claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I think Rooney is handling Sibley perfectly and we'll see before the end of this season he'll be one of the first names on the team sheet. Rooney is surprising me with how he's handled the whole situation at Derby since he came in as manager. He has the potential to be a great manager and I hope it's with Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Played a couple of games in that role under Wassall. I seem to remember him playing really well there against Sheffield Wednesday at home. I remember him being given a couple of games, but really should’ve stuck with him there. He ran the show tonight... #baller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Sibbo is a poor mans Roy Keane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Let’s be honest. We had 5 poor minutes that whole game and it cost us. Should have been 2-2 but for incompetent referees again. Thought we deserved at least a point to be honest. Didn’t think we were awful but they were a class above and that is expected when 1 player is worth more than our whole club. We move. Some can hold their heads up high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Rooney said on Radio Derby we showed Watford too much respect first half. Totally agree, second half was more like it but ultimately a lucky goal followed by a poor 10 minutes and poor referring decisions cost us. Roberts Buchanan Waggy weren’t good tonight, Shinnie has also had better games. Bird grew into the game and I thought he was better when Shinnie went off. Byrne and Edmundson stood out. Jozwiak was decent when he came on. Lots of positives from tonight. There is no way we are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, DCFClks said: The ref gives Cleverly a yellow for a perfectly fine tackle because he knows he got the disallowed goal wrong. Sort of thing happens all the time. Don't think that quite makes up for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Marshall -, very little to do. Wisdom - generally good solid performance, looked bit more confident on the ball Edmundson - grew into the game, I kinda like him Byrne - got better and better, delivery is a weapon. MOTM Buchanan - totally rinsed for the goal but otherwise decent enough and stuck at it Knight - works so hard but got crowded out at times and didn't have the pace to break free Bird - quietly efficient, does the simple things Shinnie - similar to Knight, dogged but lacking in creativity Roberts - kept cutting in and losing it and made a terribly weak tackle that lead to the 2nd goal...but I can't help thinking he has something (Lawrence-esque). CKR - runs the line, robbed of a certain goal, did what he could with little service. Waghorn - his control was ok today but deary me his crossing and passing was awful, offered little protection defensively Jozwiak - tenacious, tricky but end product is very frustrating and isn't quick enough to get a shot off Sibley - bit lightweight at times on the ball but then petulant too, needs more game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Not too disheartened by that overall. To have a team as talented & full of confidence as Watford hanging on at the end was testament to how well we played. They've got a couple of lads too good for this division (Sarr, Chalobah & our William) so was a good test of where we are. Also pleased with the line up & formation tonight - 4-3-3 but with two key picks that I feel neutered us a little. Firstly, I don't really understand why Knight was playing as the furthest forward midfielder when Bird has shown much better potential in that position. Watford are very good squeezing space in midfield & so we needed a bit more quality up there - Knight simply doesn't have that in his locker. Secondly, Waghorn playing wide left didn't work at all - felt Jozwiak needed to be taken out the side but not for someone who has been playing equally badly but on his 'wrong' side. As to the game itself, a decent opening 15 mins albeit a bit too much focus on retaining possession rather than opening them up. Disappointed with Roberts who missed at least 2 glaring opportunities to put the ball in the box - he's clearly good in possession but like Jozwiak, needs to prioritise hitting men in the box earlier. Then the crazy 10 mins - a fluke for the first goal & some poor defending for the second. Like most on here, am mystified why Kazim's goal was ruled out before half time - Wisdom wasn't even looking at the keeper & in fact was grappling with their defender (Cathcart?). Really soft decision in favour of a keeper who clearly misjudged the flight. That said, the only poor decision ref made all game - one of the better ones this season. Second half was much better. Looked to be more incisive, stepped up the pitch noticeably & the introduction of Gregory, Jozwiak & Sibley gave us late threat. Byrne was excellent all game, set up the goal & was desperately unlucky with the corner that hit the bar. When all said & done, I'd have taken 6 points from 3 games in 6 days & at least we tried to play some football tonight. Going in the right direction. COYR ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Marshall -, very little to do. Wisdom - generally good solid performance, looked bit more confident on the ball Edmundson - grew into the game, I kinda like him Byrne - got better and better, delivery is a weapon. MOTM Buchanan - totally rinsed for the goal but otherwise decent enough and stuck at it Knight - works so hard but got crowded out at times and didn't have the pace to break free Bird - quietly efficient, does the simple things Shinnie - similar to Knight, dogged but lacking in creativity Roberts - kept cutting in and losing it and made a terribly weak tackle that lead to the 2nd goal...but I can't help thinking he has something (Lawrence-esque). CKR - runs the line, robbed of a certain goal, did what he could with little service. Waghorn - his control was ok today but deary me his crossing and passing was awful, offered little protection defensively Jozwiak - tenacious, tricky but end product is very frustrating and isn't quick enough to get a shot off Sibley - bit lightweight at times on the ball but then petulant too, needs more game time. What do you think Robert’s has? He was simply awful tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Let’s not underestimate tonight’s performance, Watford are a good side and we more than matched them. Not the result we deserved tonight, but then again it wasn’t the result we deserved midweek either (swings and roundabouts people) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Bird - quietly efficient, does the simple things I keep reading and hearing this, but what does he actually offer? I mean tangibly what does he give to the team? What I see and im no expert he’s another sideways, backwards keep possession footballer who actually offers nothing to improve the team positively (I mean adds to the actual goals for metric) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, TexasRam said: I keep reading and hearing this, but what does he actually offer? I mean tangibly what does he give to the team? What I see and im no expert he’s another sideways, backwards keep possession footballer who actually offers nothing to improve the team positively (I mean adds to the actual goals for metric) Got to say neither him nor Shinnie gave enough tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: Not too disheartened by that overall. To have a team as talented & full of confidence as Watford hanging on at the end was testament to how well we played. They've got a couple of lads too good for this division (Sarr, Chalobah & our William) so was a good test of where we are. Also pleased with the line up & formation tonight - 4-3-3 but with two key picks that I feel neutered us a little. Firstly, I don't really understand why Knight was playing as the furthest forward midfielder when Bird has shown much better potential in that position. Watford are very good squeezing space in midfield & so we needed a bit more quality up there - Knight simply doesn't have that in his locker. Secondly, Waghorn playing wide left didn't work at all - felt Jozwiak needed to be taken out the side but not for someone who has been playing equally badly but on his 'wrong' side. As to the game itself, a decent opening 15 mins albeit a bit too much focus on retaining possession rather than opening them up. Disappointed with Roberts who missed at least 2 glaring opportunities to put the ball in the box - he's clearly good in possession but like Jozwiak, needs to prioritise hitting men in the box earlier. Then the crazy 10 mins - a fluke for the first goal & some poor defending for the second. Like most on here, am mystified why Kazim's goal was ruled out before half time - Wisdom wasn't even looking at the keeper & in fact was grappling with their defender (Cathcart?). Really soft decision in favour of a keeper who clearly misjudged the flight. That said, the only poor decision ref made all game - one of the better ones this season. Second half was much better. Looked to be more incisive, stepped up the pitch noticeably & the introduction of Gregory, Jozwiak & Sibley gave us late threat. Byrne was excellent all game, set up the goal & was desperately unlucky with the corner that hit the bar. When all said & done, I'd have taken 6 points from 3 games in 6 days & at least we tried to play some football tonight. Going in the right direction. COYR ? He's not our William when he's constantly whinging and berating the ref to book our players for nothing. May as well have carried his own set of yellows. Do your job for the team that's paying you but to be honest he came across as a moaning dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Buchanan - totally rinsed for the goal Bit harsh, that was one quick player. Think Bolt would’ve been skinned there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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