Duracell Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, cannable said: Sorry to be a pedant @Duracell, but we were still losing £7,000,000 a year under Clough. Mental how unsustainable Championship football is. Not at all, I've been pernickety on here for a decade now. I thought we made a profit in our final season before he left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 That article came across as Jewel saying " Yeah it was sort of my fault but it wasn't really." He was the main reason for the players throwing the towel. A leader that couldn't lead. Good managers get players running through brick walls for them. Although I can't prove it, I reckon we would have been hard pressed appointing anyone that would have been as bad as him. That season lays squarely at his door and his feeble excuses don't wash with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: That article came across as Jewel saying " Yeah it was sort of my fault but it wasn't really." He was the main reason for the players throwing the towel. A leader that couldn't lead. Good managers get players running through brick walls for them. Although I can't prove it, I reckon we would have been hard pressed appointing anyone that would have been as bad as him. That season lays squarely at his door and his feeble excuses don't wash with me. Whilst Jewell was absolutely dreadful, if I had to portion the blame out for that season I would give more to Davies than Jewell. It was interesting reading the Pride book about how negative he was about the season before it even began. When Gadsby asked him what players he want he just responded with "It doesn't matter you wont get them". His signings; Todd, Earnshaw, Davies, Griffin, Fehilhaber and Lewis were abysmal and gave us no chance whatsoever. Like Jewell said in the article one of the biggest mistakes was spending so much in the January. We should've kept Oakley and saved the money for the summer and tried to bounce back instead of signing players like Danny Mills and Lauren Robert that couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, AGR said: Whilst Jewell was absolutely dreadful, if I had to portion the blame out for that season I would give more to Davies than Jewell. It was interesting reading the Pride book about how negative he was about the season before it even began. When Gadsby asked him what players he want he just responded with "It doesn't matter you wont get them". His signings; Todd, Earnshaw, Davies, Griffin, Fehilhaber and Lewis were abysmal and gave us no chance whatsoever. His speach after the Wembley win didn't go down well, Refused to commit to DCFC, Pretty sure he new the team needed root and branch treatment, Jewell never stood a chance, I loved the Moyes comment...DON'T GO!...PMSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, AGR said: Whilst Jewell was absolutely dreadful, if I had to portion the blame out for that season I would give more to Davies than Jewell. It was interesting reading the Pride book about how negative he was about the season before it even began. When Gadsby asked him what players he want he just responded with "It doesn't matter you wont get them". His signings; Todd, Earnshaw, Davies, Griffin, Fehilhaber and Lewis were abysmal and gave us no chance whatsoever. Like Jewell said in the article one of the biggest mistakes was spending so much in the January. We should've kept Oakley and saved the money for the summer and tried to bounce back instead of signing players like Danny Mills and Lauren Robert that couldn't care less. Billy was a strange, complex character and may have added to the negativity but he still managed to take more points than Jewell did in almost twice as many games. He (Jewell)pretty much told the players they weren't good enough from the start. He even admits this himself with his little tale about pulling Gary Teale to one side after the very first training session. Did he think that his comment wouldn't make it's way back to some if not all of the players. The rot may have been setting in by the time he was appointed but he had the power to address it. Instead he just pissed on it and then sat back and watched it worsen. He should be publicly flogged if he ever steps anywhere near Pride Park again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: That article came across as Jewel saying " Yeah it was sort of my fault but it wasn't really." He was the main reason for the players throwing the towel. A leader that couldn't lead. Good managers get players running through brick walls for them. Although I can't prove it, I reckon we would have been hard pressed appointing anyone that would have been as bad as him. That season lays squarely at his door and his feeble excuses don't wash with me. By far the worst ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: should be publicly flogged if he ever steps anywhere near Pride Park again. Quite enjoys a bit of that sort of thing doesn't he? According to the Sport anyway.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: That article came across as Jewel saying " Yeah it was sort of my fault but it wasn't really." He was the main reason for the players throwing the towel. A leader that couldn't lead. Good managers get players running through brick walls for them. Although I can't prove it, I reckon we would have been hard pressed appointing anyone that would have been as bad as him. That season lays squarely at his door and his feeble excuses don't wash with me. Whilst there is plenty of blame to go around, board, Billy and others all taking their share, Jewell was absolutely, unspeakably, awful for the club. We'd have got more points under Billy. Frankly, we'd have got more points if I'd been managing the team. What I find most most unforgivable is not pumping Jewell out as soon as the final whistle had blown. It'd probably have been better for Jewell if that had happened tbh. As uniquely bad as the 11 point season was, it was the season after I found particularly sickening and toxic until Nigel dragged it out fire and brought in austerity football for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 The west ham game at pride park was the one when I knew they’d given up and that was in November! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Interesting read. Have to wonder even from day 1, if PJ went in and said 'Tealey, is this it? Is this the team?' how much of that "lost cause" / "oh cr4p" negativity rubbed off on the players from day 1. If they got a hint the manager thought they were rubbish from day 1, what hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 It was the way we lost that West Ham game bowyer running through us like there was nobody there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premier ram Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Monty said: It was the way we lost that West Ham game bowyer running through us like there was nobody there Roy Carroll in that game, terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Monty said: I dislike like this person with the upmost dislike ability, Put him in the same catagory as Danny all knowledge Murphy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 That promotion season should have raised a few eyebrows. Loads of 1-0 wins without ever really dominating if memory serves me right. As for the play off semi (2nd leg) and final. Not sure how we won those to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: 'Do I regret going to Derby? Of course I do," he reflects. You and me both, Mr Jewell. You and me both! :-) they are going down, so I'm not interested.' That was at the start of the season. Makes me wonder why we bothered a second time, that attitude was never going to help much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve How Hard? said: That article came across as Jewel saying " Yeah it was sort of my fault but it wasn't really." He was the main reason for the players throwing the towel. A leader that couldn't lead. Good managers get players running through brick walls for them. Although I can't prove it, I reckon we would have been hard pressed appointing anyone that would have been as bad as him. That season lays squarely at his door and his feeble excuses don't wash with me. Michael Johnson was doing the Radio Derby commentary at Ipswich the night he got the boot and couldn't contain his delight. Stated he was the worst manager he ever had, that the players appreciated after a number of games that they weren't good enough but he used to do double and triple training sessions as a form of punishment. By Saturday they were knackered as well as being not good enough and that was a huge contributor to the lack of points from January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, AGR said: Whilst Jewell was absolutely dreadful, if I had to portion the blame out for that season I would give more to Davies than Jewell. It was interesting reading the Pride book about how negative he was about the season before it even began. When Gadsby asked him what players he want he just responded with "It doesn't matter you wont get them". His signings; Todd, Earnshaw, Davies, Griffin, Fehilhaber and Lewis were abysmal and gave us no chance whatsoever. Like Jewell said in the article one of the biggest mistakes was spending so much in the January. We should've kept Oakley and saved the money for the summer and tried to bounce back instead of signing players like Danny Mills and Lauren Robert that couldn't care less. Cares about enough to to do piss taking ads for a betting firm with his mate Stubbsy. He managed about thirty minutes in a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 6 hours ago, TuffLuff said: Here’s my two penneth: This is nothing but more of the continual fluff pieces to make out that Sheffield United are unfortunate rather than a set of players who aren’t good enough. Yeah the two situations are different in as much as any two situations are different but there’s a lot of similarities too. There’s a lot of ‘going to Derby ruined my career’ stuff in here. Not a lot of individuals reflecting on themselves and saying that they contributed in ruining a great club for the best part of a decade. It essentially draws on the individuals to bring out the differences in character rather than looking at the clubs/leagues as a whole which help show a more accurate picture of why both clubs found themselves in a mess Edit: My main point is that this article, like many about that season isn’t about our club, it’s usually about another struggling club using rentagob opinions by people who didn’t hang around long enough to fully understand it. I’d enjoy it if someone actually wrote an article about it from that perspective - damage to the club and it’s the fans who have to now carry it around until Sunderland who set this record twice before - probably takes it back off us ha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGR Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Monty said: It was the way we lost that West Ham game bowyer running through us like there was nobody there When we played away at West Ham that season, their fans booed them off for only beating us 2-1. I think that sums it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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