Millenniumram Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: True, but it's been better since Rooney took over. I think most of those 7 have been in the last 10. Many teams have got promoted with a tight defence and few goals. We aren't even particularly defensive either, just not yet clinical enough to usually create or finish good chances. Maybe marginally, but it’s still terrible. You can get promoted playing a defensive style, but you’ve still got to score enough goals to consistently win games. We still aren’t doing that, despite the last few wins. The squad isn’t capable of it. Edited January 31, 2021 by Millenniumram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 6 hours ago, derbydaz22 said: This is the best I’ve seen Derby defensively since our promotion under Billy the whole team is putting a shift in and bar the Rotherham game we look tough to play against. Matt Clarke is immense kevinhectoring, derbydaz22 and SKRam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I honestly think we are in with a shout, in fact I fully expect a joint celebration for 'dcfc make the playoffs ' and ' hurrah for connor sammon on his ballon d'or victory ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I've just seen this thread and haven't looked at the other posts, but this is fantasy. We will need championship winning form between now and the end of the season, to creep into the play offs, with a paper thin squad, which has probably lost its best player for the rest of the season. Let's hope for mid table and set our sights on building a team to challenge for next season. Asanovic70 and Wistaston Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Premier ram said: Matt Clarke is immense He just gets better every week and to think Brighton only paid £2 mill for him what a snip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, ram59 said: I've just seen this thread and haven't looked at the other posts, but this is fantasy. We will need championship winning form between now and the end of the season, to creep into the play offs, with a paper thin squad, which has probably lost its best player for the rest of the season. Let's hope for mid table and set our sights on building a team to challenge for next season. Wayne wants 3 points from every game. That will not change. ariotofmyown and SKRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, ram59 said: I've just seen this thread and haven't looked at the other posts, but this is fantasy. We will need championship winning form between now and the end of the season, to creep into the play offs, with a paper thin squad, which has probably lost its best player for the rest of the season. Let's hope for mid table and set our sights on building a team to challenge for next season. If you read them all, including my opening one, I don't think anyone is saying we will actually make the playoffs. Just there is a slight chance as most the teams above us aren't much good. We'd still have to go on an amazing run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Rampage said: Wayne wants 3 points from every game. That will not change. He demands it from his players and they respond. It’s so much about motivation and he learnt about that at the feet of the fergie master It helps of course that he is a legend - the players know he has done it all. Edited January 31, 2021 by kevinhectoring Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: If you read them all, including my opening one, I don't think anyone is saying we will actually make the playoffs. HANG ON a minute. Are you saying this whole thread - which I was really getting into - is a wild goose chase? SKRam and ariotofmyown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 20 hours ago, Rammy03 said: It's almost impossible. Comrade 86, Rammy03 and kevinhectoring 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Forget it! We've been top at this point and missed the playoffs. Brighton missed out on promotion with 89 points. Let's just end this season with 55+ points and that'll be an amazing achievement! PS I happen to think that, were we in the Premiership NOW we'd make a better showing than at least those in the bottom six, but that's just my opinion! Rampage and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, Brammie Steve said: PS I happen to think that, were we in the Premiership NOW we'd make a better showing than at least those in the bottom six, but that's just my opinion! We'd have definitely beaten Tottenham tonight SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Too many teams above us, too many points have to go to one or other of them in too many games. We could catch up 14 points on Bournemouth in 20 games if we show amazing form and they have a Devon Loch run in...but we can't catch half the division. Bielik injury pretty much underlines that. I've really enjoyed watching us for the last 6 weeks or so, with occasional blips obviously, so I'm more interested in getting a successful end to the window and then watching game to game and seeing how the new lads can be blended in. ariotofmyown, SKRam and Asanovic70 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 If we could match last seasons points total and 10th place that would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 30/01/2021 at 23:57, BathRam72 said: Supertramp wrote a song about you DREAMER So did Queen...... Its a Kind of Magic BathRam72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 31/01/2021 at 01:04, Jourdan said: I think our form under Rooney has been characterised by fine margins. So many of the games have been painfully tight and decided by the odd goal. When it’s like that, you have to anticipate things could easily change. I think we still have work to do to consider ourselves safe. Wins like today and last week at QPR are a massive boost. Another win on Tuesday and most, if not all, will believe we’ll be fine. Personally I wouldn’t have my eye on the play-offs for a while. I think the club has to show that things are working well and aligned on and off the pitch before we dare to dream. xG under Rooney (our score in bold) Wycombe - 1.6 vs 1.0 Coventry - 1.3 vs 0.8 Millwall - 1.2 vs 0.8 Brentford - 1.0 vs 0.4 Stoke - 1.0 vs 0.4 Swansea - 1.2 vs 0.3 Preston - 0.4 vs 1.2 Birmingham - 0.7 vs 4.1 Sheff Weds - 1.4 vs 1.7 Rotherham - 0.9 vs 1.5 Bournemouth - 1.4 vs 1.0 QPR - 1.3 vs 0.9 Bristol - 1.7 vs 0.4 An average of 1.3 vs 0.9... Equivalent to 60 goals for over a season, with 41 against - similar to Fulham's 4th place finish last season (64 vs 48) DarkFruitsRam7, Dimmu, ariotofmyown and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: xG under Rooney (our score in bold) Wycombe - 1.6 vs 1.0 Coventry - 1.3 vs 0.8 Millwall - 1.2 vs 0.8 Brentford - 1.0 vs 0.4 Stoke - 1.0 vs 0.4 Swansea - 1.2 vs 0.3 Preston - 0.4 vs 1.2 Birmingham - 0.7 vs 4.1 Sheff Weds - 1.4 vs 1.7 Rotherham - 0.9 vs 1.5 Bournemouth - 1.4 vs 1.0 QPR - 1.3 vs 0.9 Bristol - 1.7 vs 0.4 An average of 1.3 vs 0.9... Equivalent to 60 goals for over a season, with 41 against - similar to Fulham's 4th place finish last season (64 vs 48) I am not sure what these stats are meant to show, GoC. Are you trying to say we have or we’ve not been in tight games? To me, again, looking at those stats, it just shows with a few obvious exceptions, the games have been tight and competitive and in many games both teams have created but not taken their big chances. I don’t think what I said before was particularly unreasonable, was it? It’s an improvement from the outcomes under Cocu, but when games are that close, it doesn’t take much to end up on the wrong side so it’s something to be wary of. Edited February 1, 2021 by Jourdan Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Just now, Jourdan said: It’s an improvement from the outcomes under Cocu, but when games are that close, it doesn’t take much to end up on the wrong side so it’s something to be wary of. I think this is a fair point. Although we do look comfortable in games in terms of not conceding, it would be nice to see some more goals. We won't be able to win 1-0 every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jourdan said: I am not sure what these stats are meant to show, GoC. Are you trying to say we have or we’ve not been in tight games? To me, again, looking at those stats, it just shows with a few obvious exceptions, the games have been tight and competitive and in many games both teams have created but not taken their big chances. I don’t think what I said before was particularly unreasonable, was it? It’s an improvement from the outcomes under Cocu, but when games are that close, it doesn’t take much to end up on the wrong side so it’s something to be wary of. The spread between goals for and against is what you'd expect for a top 6 side - hence the comparison with Fulham's 4th place finish from last season. Essentially, we're consistently a little bit better than the opposition. The alternatives are being the best side in the league and getting 2.0 vs 1.0 per game, or being more inconsistent with 0.5 vs 0.9 in half your games and 2.1 vs 0.9 in the other half (the average is still 1.3 vs 0.9). As you should know by now, there isn't too much between teams in this league, so it's no surprise a lot of games are close. For comparison, table topping Norwich averaged 1.7 vs 1.1 over the past 10 games (can't be bothered to check the whole season)... 0.7 vs 0.8, 1.6 vs 0.1, 0.9 vs 2.1, 1.5 vs 0.9, 3.0 vs 1.8, 1.4 vs 0.7, 1.3 vs 1.0, 0.7 vs 2.2, 2.2 vs 2.3, 1.6 vs 1.3 SKRam, Wistaston Ram and ariotofmyown 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 16 wins needed to reach the play offs. Or 60% of the remaining matches. works out to be 1.9 points per game. Rammy03, SKRam and RoyMac5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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