AndyinLiverpool Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: https://www.elfvoetbal.nl/Binnenland/276553/Samuel-Sebagabo-het-Nederlandse-talent-dat-jeugdteams-overslaat-bij-Derby-County It was actually PSV. He moved to this country, and didn't have a team for a couple of years. Failed trial with Leicester before we gave him a chance in 2018. A fascinating read ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footymum2017 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 52 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: https://www.elfvoetbal.nl/Binnenland/276553/Samuel-Sebagabo-het-Nederlandse-talent-dat-jeugdteams-overslaat-bij-Derby-County It was actually PSV. He moved to this country, and didn't have a team for a couple of years. Failed trial with Leicester before we gave him a chance in 2018. One of the dads that runs a grass roots team told Derby about him and they went to watch and offered him a trial. Ghost of Clough and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said: I am currently 49 and playing for an U9s team. You know what, I am absolutely bossing it. Referee ? Will Hughes Hair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) As with Kaide, I have mixed emotions about this. On the one hand, if the £3M figure for Kaide is true and we're securing decent add-ons, it's hard to walk away. Likewise if Manure are offering silly money for the others. That said, it's such a shame that kids this young are leaving well before they've even had a squeak at first team football. On a separate note, the powers that be need to have a look at the current regs. In this post-Brexit apocalyptic and dystopian new world order, allowing Premiership clubs to raid lower division academies might not bode well for EFL clubs unless the mandatory compo levels are looked at. Edited January 31, 2021 by 86 Hair Islands archram, Indyram, Jimbo Ram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, Footymum2017 said: One of the dads that runs a grass roots team told Derby about him and they went to watch and offered him a trial. I wonder if that dad and his grass roots team could have a chat with Derby about the state of our pitch. 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Interesting read that we put pressure on Utd to lend us Mengi basically saying its the least you could do after nicking 3 of our kids. Could have chucked us Greenwood or someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rample said: Interesting read that we put pressure on Utd to lend us Mengi basically saying its the least you could do after nicking 3 of our kids. Where's it say that then? Does it say which three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 55 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Where's it say that then? Does it say which three? Says it on Strettynews.com - also states they can't name juniors because they are juniors. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said: As with Kaide, I have mixed emotions about this. On the one hand, if the £3M figure for Kaide is true and we're securing decent add-ons, it's hard to walk away. Likewise if Manure are offering silly money for the others. That said, it's such a shame that kids this young are leaving well before they've even had a squeak at first team football. On a separate note, the powers that be need to have a look at the current regs. In this post-Brexit apocalyptic and dystopian new world order, allowing Premiership clubs to raid lower division academies might not bode well for EFL clubs unless the mandatory compo levels are looked at. Aside from the fee you get per year they are in the academy you also get the below based on appearances. What I'm not sure about is how it is applied. I presume it only applies to the club that signs and not all future transfers but really not sure. Effectively if one of the U15s goes on to make 100 appearances for United we would get a further £7.5m in increments. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, gccrowdpleaser said: Aside from the fee you get per year they are in the academy you also get the below based on appearances. What I'm not sure about is how it is applied. I presume it only applies to the club that signs and not all future transfers but really not sure. Effectively if one of the U15s goes on to make 100 appearances for United we would get a further £7.5m in increments. I think the appearances are for the club the graduated from the academy from. These 3 are worth 129k each if they joined at 9 Edited January 31, 2021 by DCFC1388 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 12 hours ago, DCFC1388 said: I think the appearances are for the club the graduated from the academy from. These 3 are worth 129k each if they joined at 9 No. This is the standardised compensation value set out in the EPPP compensation guidelines. There is figure per year from the 9-11 fixed at 3k per year. There is then a fee per year based on academy status from 12 to 16 which varies from 12.5k to 40 depending academy status. A worked example would be that Player x joins Derby at age 8 and is now being picked up by any other academy at 15. 3 k for years 9-11 = 9k 3 years for 12 to 15 @ 40k as Derby is the elite academy. That's your fee and I presume your 129k but that assumes these players have been with us since early. If it's someone we picked up at 14...we are entitled to 40k. The per games compensation is fixed thereafter UNLESS another agreement is made between the two clubs which guarantees an income now. So risk vs reward if those 3 15 year old go on to make 100 appearances for United it costs them 7.75m each player spread over the years the appearances take. Or they could give Derby 2m now ans Derby forego any entitlement to future earnings from the players. 48 hours, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta and Comrade 86 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Do we know who they are yet or will we have to wait to see who is missing the next time they play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Do we know who they are yet or will we have to wait to see who is missing the next time they play? As they are under 16 i doubt they can be named RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Here they are nogbad van 50, RoyMac5 and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Do we know who they are yet or will we have to wait to see who is missing the next time they play? They're supposed to be U15s. Unless someone got mixed up and actually meant U16s (such as Sebagabo), then it's going to be a while until we find out - probably when Man Utd announce their 1st year scholars (U18s) in summer 2022. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCFC1388 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 I assume he means 2m upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footymum2017 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said: I assume he means 2m upfront I don’t think that there are any u15s at Derby that would be worth that sort of figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Didn’t think there would be any chance you’d get that sort of figure for players that young. Fantastic business if true, should keep us going this season at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Footymum2017 said: I don’t think that there are any u15s at Derby that would be worth that sort of figure. Odd. Why would they pay that much, is it similar to Gordon? But u15s must be unable to sign anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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