JohnHarkes Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, DCFClks said: But they did hire Solskjaer whose record wasn't good at all. I could see it happening if they sacked someone mid season and then hired Rooney as Caretaker until the end of the season to see how he'd do, like they did with Solskjaer. Yeah, probably if they sacked him mid-season and there wasn't any available high-profile managers. If they have more of a choice I couldn't see them hiring anyone who'd require as much time as Solskjaer has, I don't think a club the size of United can afford to go for "young and unproven" more than once a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Haha! Left us in limbo so feck him. Completely disrupted our summer. But this also ends our "special relationship" with Chelsea? RoyMac5, Jourdan, bigbadbob and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Been searching within me for some sympathy. Couldn't find any so can only conclude I don't have any. Check down the back of the sofa. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 What an entirely foreseeable situation. It seems the only person who couldn’t see it was Frank himself. He was so naive in taking the Chelsea job. He should have stayed here and grown with the club. Getting us promoted and re-established in the PL would have reflected far better on him as a manager. For such a seemingly intelligent bloke, the lack of common sense and long-term thinking was astounding. He knows exactly how both Chelsea as a club and Roman as an owner operate so he should have recognised that the moment he stopped hitting club targets, he would be at risk. If no protection, time or patience was afforded to managers like Mourinho, Ancelotti and Conte, why would Roman treat him any differently? ariotofmyown, RIMBAUD, Ken Tram and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jourdan said: What an entirely foreseeable situation. It seems the only person who couldn’t see it was Frank himself. He was so naive in taking the Chelsea job. He should have stayed here and grown with the club. Getting us promoted and re-established in the PL would have reflected far better on him as a manager. For such a seemingly intelligent bloke, the lack of common sense and long-term thinking was astounding. He knows exactly how both Chelsea as a club and Roman as an owner operate so he should have recognised that the moment he stopped hitting club targets, he would be at risk. If no protection, time or patience was afforded to managers like Mourinho, Ancelotti and Conte, why would Roman treat him any differently? We'd have sacked him sooner than Chelsea did. Jourdan and Deej 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The worst thing about this is that it's totally ruined our "special relationship" - no more loans of Chelsea's top young talent for us...oh Carl Sagan, Boycie, CBRammette and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jourdan said: He was so naive in taking the Chelsea job. He should have stayed here and grown with the club. Getting us promoted and re-established in the PL would have reflected far better on him as a manager. He knows exactly how both Chelsea as a club and Roman as an owner operate so he should have recognised that the moment he stopped hitting club targets, he would be at risk. If, as you say, Frank knew how Chelsea and their owner operate, how can he have also have been naive? I suspect he knew exactly what the likely outcome would be when he took the job, and a few more years of experience with Derby (or anywhere else) would not alter that outcome one jot - look at the calibre of managers they have hired and fired over the last decade. When its your dream job you take it when it's offered. It might never have come round again. He could have turned it down, stayed with Derby and seen his playing resources dry up (as has happened since the summer of 2019), in which case I doubt he'd have been in line for the job now. Edited January 25, 2021 by StarterForTen Patrick Rams and Spanish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 Would have him back in a heartbeat if Rooney was to leave. Archied, RIMBAUD, Steve How Hard? and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: If, as you say, Frank knew how Chelsea and their owner operate, how can he have also have been naive? I suspect he knew exactly what the likely outcome would be when he took the job, and a few more years of experience with Derby (or anywhere else) would not alter that outcome one jot - look at the calibre of managers they have hired and fired over the last decade. When its your dream job you take it when it's offered. It might never have come round again. He could have turned it down, stayed with Derby and seen his playing resources dry up (as has happened since the summer of 2019), in which case I doubt he'd have been in line for the job now. As an already multi millionaire it matters not a jot financially or career wise. Odds of being sacked as a football manager are high it comes with the job. Yep it was probably too soon but he could have waited forever for the right moment that never would arrive. Your summary is spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, David said: Would have him back in a heartbeat if Rooney was to leave. Echo's of Mac 2 I do wonder if Frank had been sacked a few weeks ago if we'd had gone for him instead of hiring Rooney. Edited January 25, 2021 by DCFClks Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) He can afford to chip in for our January wages now. He owes us some compo for that Wembley team selection. Whats happening with JM , Chelski keeping him on for the yoof ? Wrong thread but there’s Sweet FA going on otherwise ???? Edited January 25, 2021 by hintonsboots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, David said: Would have him back in a heartbeat if Rooney was to leave. I certainly wouldn't. Taking the Leeds 2nd leg out of the equation, were we really that good over the season, especially when Mount was injured? BriggRam, MuespachRam and Archied 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Typical Chelsea,any thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) I think that there's already at least 2 other threads on this subject. But let's start another one. Edited January 25, 2021 by Tyler Durden Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, ramsbottom said: I certainly wouldn't. Taking the Leeds 2nd leg out of the equation, were we really that good over the season, especially when Mount was injured? Take key players out of any team and they will struggle regardless of who’s manager rynny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 New show on the pier Frank and Jodie - that’s (not) the way to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 If we get promoted next season, do you think he’d come back and start the bounce? Or perhaps Wayne will be all over that stuff by then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, David said: Would have him back in a heartbeat if Rooney was to leave. He really did have something about him. Funny but I don’t wish him any ill will. Managers come and go. I liked him. Steve How Hard?, Pearl Ram and Patrick Rams 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, DCFClks said: I do wonder if Frank had been sacked a few weeks ago if we'd had gone for him instead of hiring Rooney. Was just thinking this myself DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RIMBAUD said: He really did have something about him. Funny but I don’t wish him any ill will. Managers come and go. I liked him. Me neither. Find it all a little bizarre really. Left for his dream job, as we all would. The protracted departure was not his own doing, that was Chelsea haggling with Sarri and dragging there feet. Fans demanding he addressed the rumours, he couldn’t come out and say yes I want the Chelsea job before having a contract under his nose. I mean Mel confirmed all this himself, felt the need to come out and defend him, yet McClaren is hailed as some kind of god around here who was sacked. Go figure. Oh and just to put it out there, I would love a body like Lampard’s, and I suspect all those running the fat memes are nowhere near as fit and healthy looking behind the keyboards. Frank won’t come back to Derby, England will be his next job and he will be suited to it perfectly. Just needs to bring someone in with him that can work with the defence, his time at both Derby and Chelsea highlighted this as his weakness. Clever bloke though, won’t need me sitting here and pointing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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