IslandExile Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 When I said I missed the Baseball Ground, this is not quite what I meant. Get the sand out. SKRam, Ken Tram and Ted McMinn Football Genius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 This is just my opinion, but I think that the condition of the pitch isn't because of lack of finance. It might have something to so with it not being re-laid, but much of the trouble is simply due to the weather. We have had consistently bad, wet weather for the last few months, and although there haven't been the storms and deluges we normally get around now, the rainfall has been pretty incessant. So the ground is absolutely saturated, it has no more capacity t take more water in, so it just runs off, or simply stays put. I travel all over the country and know where to expect to see the flood plains, but there are a huge amount more fields under water than I have ever seen before, and I have been doing this job for 20 odd years. When Pride Park was built, it was at the same level as the entire surrounding area, so there is nowhere for the eater to go, regardless of how good a drainage system we have. So the water just sits there in the pitch which has no chance to dry and breathe. At the time, it may not have been possible to foresee this situation, but maybe the stadium, especially the pitch, should have been built at a higher physical level than the rest of Pride Park so that the water still had somewhere to go. The only other option would be to install a huge underground tank near the ground to act as a buffer to drain the water into, and then pump it out at a later date. Will Hughes Hair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: This is just my opinion, but I think that the condition of the pitch isn't because of lack of finance. It might have something to so with it not being re-laid, but much of the trouble is simply due to the weather. We have had consistently bad, wet weather for the last few months, and although there haven't been the storms and deluges we normally get around now, the rainfall has been pretty incessant. So the ground is absolutely saturated, it has no more capacity t take more water in, so it just runs off, or simply stays put. I travel all over the country and know where to expect to see the flood plains, but there are a huge amount more fields under water than I have ever seen before, and I have been doing this job for 20 odd years. When Pride Park was built, it was at the same level as the entire surrounding area, so there is nowhere for the eater to go, regardless of how good a drainage system we have. So the water just sits there in the pitch which has no chance to dry and breathe. At the time, it may not have been possible to foresee this situation, but maybe the stadium, especially the pitch, should have been built at a higher physical level than the rest of Pride Park so that the water still had somewhere to go. The only other option would be to install a huge underground tank near the ground to act as a buffer to drain the water into, and then pump it out at a later date. Who relays their lawn in winter? Mel owns the ground we only rent it, sort it out Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 It’s not even funny anymore, the state of the pitch today was frankly an embarrassment to a club of our stature. Absolutely piss poor. Shows the financial mess we’ve got ourselves into. Sort it out Mel/Sheikhy. This can’t carry on. Chris_Martin and Abu Derby 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Spanish said: Who relays their lawn in winter? Mel owns the ground we only rent it, sort it out Where I work, we rented the building, yet were responsible for all upkeep too, until we bought it outright. Are you seriously suggesting the landlord is responsible for the state of the pitch? Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScamRam Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Perhaps its a dastardly plan just like Brian Clough watering the BBG to stop teams playing! Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie George Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DavesaRam said: This is just my opinion, but I think that the condition of the pitch isn't because of lack of finance. It might have something to so with it not being re-laid, but much of the trouble is simply due to the weather. We have had consistently bad, wet weather for the last few months, and although there haven't been the storms and deluges we normally get around now, the rainfall has been pretty incessant. So the ground is absolutely saturated, it has no more capacity t take more water in, so it just runs off, or simply stays put. I travel all over the country and know where to expect to see the flood plains, but there are a huge amount more fields under water than I have ever seen before, and I have been doing this job for 20 odd years. When Pride Park was built, it was at the same level as the entire surrounding area, so there is nowhere for the eater to go, regardless of how good a drainage system we have. So the water just sits there in the pitch which has no chance to dry and breathe. At the time, it may not have been possible to foresee this situation, but maybe the stadium, especially the pitch, should have been built at a higher physical level than the rest of Pride Park so that the water still had somewhere to go. The only other option would be to install a huge underground tank near the ground to act as a buffer to drain the water into, and then pump it out at a later date. It's a financial issue. Rooney confirmed it on Radio Derby after the game. DavesaRam and Ken Tram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Oh no the pitch is a bit muddy what a disaster. Coneheadjohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I've seen a few people saying we should go back to the blue and white kits that we wore during the title winning years, but only Rooney realised it was the BBG pitch that made the difference. The blokes a genius. angieram, Ken Tram, Will Hughes Hair and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Rev said: Where I work, we rented the building, yet were responsible for all upkeep too, until we bought it outright. Are you seriously suggesting the landlord is responsible for the state of the pitch? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Rev said: Where I work, we rented the building, yet were responsible for all upkeep too, until we bought it outright. Are you seriously suggesting the landlord is responsible for the state of the pitch? We only pay rent for 100 days a year. Landlord should look after it on the other 265 days? To be honest, I think this is just a ploy by the club to renegotiate the contract and reduce the rate paid. Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: We only pay rent for 100 days a year. Landlord should look after it on the other 265 days? To be honest, I think this is just a ploy by the club to renegotiate the contract and reduce the rate paid. So you think the club have let the pitch go to rack and ruin, to reduce the amount of rent we pay to the person who owns the stadium, who is also the person that owns the club? I'm not sure I see the logic, if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: It’s not even funny anymore, the state of the pitch today was frankly an embarrassment to a club of our stature. Absolutely piss poor. Shows the financial mess we’ve got ourselves into. Sort it out Mel/Sheikhy. This can’t carry on. Could prove to be an asset. All other teams play on it once. We will be used to it. Suits aggressive play and sharp short passes. Was Wayne playing to the pitch today Will Hughes Hair and Ken Tram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Mud? you call that mud? Now when I were a PopSider! derbydaz22, Ken Tram and StockholmRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rampage said: Could prove to be an asset. All other teams play on it once. We will be used to it. Suits aggressive play and sharp short passes. Was Wayne playing to the pitch today Don’t think it suits short passes at all. Was bobbling all over the place today. Rooney has already said he’s disappointed with it. Ken Tram and SKRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Don’t think it suits short passes at all. Was bobbling all over the place today. Rooney has already said he’s disappointed with it. We are all disappointed with it. So many successful shirt passes today we're a feature of the match. Make a long pass in a sticky bobbly surface and it does not get there unless it is lofted. Millenniumram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Rampage said: Could prove to be an asset. All other teams play on it once. We will be used to it. Suits aggressive play and sharp short passes. Was Wayne playing to the pitch today the only play that pitch suits is above head height. Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Clearly that is not a semi synthetic pitch any more. The players are getting used to it. saying that, at least we are not by a river, like Wednesday and Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Mick Brolly said: Oh no the pitch is a bit muddy what a disaster. I took this picture of the centre circle at half time. Mick Brolly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Rev said: So you think the club have let the pitch go to rack and ruin, to reduce the amount of rent we pay to the person who owns the stadium, who is also the person that owns the club? I'm not sure I see the logic, if I'm honest. Tongue in cheek perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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