Wolfie20 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 41 minutes ago, Whoneedshuls said: If he’s that good he should be in the first team starting squad not making 5 minute cameos.. He's barely 16 years old and has been in the squad for the last 4 Championship matches. That alone suggests potential and Rooney will be the best person to decide if and when he's ready to be given more playing time - after all, he's coming from a position of knowing what it's like to be that age and introduced to the professional game. bimmerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 It would have been nice if we could have seen him develop with us but that looks hugely unlikely at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Did he at touch the ball in his cameos? His only first team appearance to date has been as a substitute against Birmingham where he was brought on in the 89th minute. I think you can cut him a bit of slack if he didn't touch the ball in his one minute of senior football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, GenBr said: His only first team appearance to date has been as a substitute against Birmingham where he was brought on in the 89th minute. I think you can cut him a bit of slack if he didn't touch the ball in his one minute of senior football. He has all the slack in the world from me GenBr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Is he in the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Boycie said: Is he in the squad? Travelled with the squad. Up in the Gods sat with Stevie Mac 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Devil's advocate here but perhaps part of his sale would include a possible loan in Derby's direction? Rooney is clearly a fan of Phil Jones and would make sense. Sensible transfer fee for Kaide (~2 Mill) plus a sell on fee and a player on loan at substantially reduced wages would be a very smart move for all parties. whiteroseram and Millenniumram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: Devil's advocate here but perhaps part of his sale would include a possible loan in Derby's direction? Rooney is clearly a fan of Phil Jones and would make sense. Sensible transfer fee for Kaide (~2 Mill) plus a sell on fee and a player on loan at substantially reduced wages would be a very smart move for all parties. Good thought. Plus united already willing to cover majority of his wages so maybe part of the Gordon deal is a low/no loan fee for Jones Maybe we could get him for 30-35k a week with 32red covering half maybe? Edited January 23, 2021 by DCFC1388 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Good thought. Plus united already willing to cover majority of his wages so maybe part of the Gordon deal is a low/no loan fee for Jones Maybe we could get him for 30-35k a week with 32red covering half maybe? Possible I suppose. Hard to know what he’s actually on at Manure. I’ve seen reports ranging from 75k to 135k a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Possible I suppose. Hard to know what he’s actually on at Manure. I’ve seen reports ranging from 75k to 135k a week! Ive read they are willing to cover most of his wages, so if 32red can help then i guess that helps us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Why on earth would 32 Red give us more money to cover Phil Jones wages in a Covid-era? CBRammette and TigerTedd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Is the young lad definitely going ? is it confirmed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, S8TY said: Is the young lad definitely going ? is it confirmed ? With him not being in the first team or the u23's today then I'm guessing so ☹ S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, rammieib said: Why on earth would 32 Red give us more money to cover Phil Jones wages in a Covid-era? Agreed - 32 Red are almost certainly only interested in Rooney and the publicity that brings - hence the reason Wayne was given the squad number 32, Jones will be of no commercial benefit to them. If we considered, even for one fleeting moment, to pay anything remotely near £30k pw to bring Phil Jones here on loan then we would need our bumps feeling - it would be financial madness after everything that's been done in bringing the wage bill down. I know nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, dcfcreece1601 said: With him not being in the first team or the u23's today then I'm guessing so ☹ He was at the QPR match, so I assume he traveled with the squad and was back up for them bench in case anyone got injured in warm up. TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Agreed - 32 Red are almost certainly only interested in Rooney and the publicity that brings - hence the reason Wayne was given the squad number 32, Jones will be of no commercial benefit to them. If we considered, even for one fleeting moment, to pay anything remotely near £30k pw to bring Phil Jones here on loan then we would need our bumps feeling - it would be financial madness after everything that's been done in bringing the wage bill down. I guess it would all come down to the contract we have with 32red for a star player. Was it a one off? Ashley Cole nearly signed for us on it before he joined us on a free I think I read. If we are permitted 1 star player at a time then now Rooney is manager it would be free to use again, I guess it all depends what criteria they have for a star player? Jones has 27 England caps, won the Prem, FA Cup & Europa League - would that qualify for it? I do think Jones dropping down to the Championship to play under Rooney would get some decent publicity and the 32 number is available again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 49 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Agreed - 32 Red are almost certainly only interested in Rooney and the publicity that brings - hence the reason Wayne was given the squad number 32, Jones will be of no commercial benefit to them. If we considered, even for one fleeting moment, to pay anything remotely near £30k pw to bring Phil Jones here on loan then we would need our bumps feeling - it would be financial madness after everything that's been done in bringing the wage bill down. Indeed, given his injury struggles over the last few years it’d be madness to have the equivalent of 3-4 players wages tied up on the treatment table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footymum2017 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Good theory, but don’t think he’s going to United! Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Footymum2017 said: Good theory, but don’t think he’s going to United! Have you heard anything then? #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footymum2017 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 The deal should be finalised next week, he’s going to the club for a couple of days next week. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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