Olton Ram 1,201 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 6 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: Total embarrassment to be honest if you have a contract you need paying for it.It looks like we have not got a pot to hiss in We are now trying to hold Man City to ransom over Carson so we can get 500 grand loan payment this month so we can pay the players with it,have we really got this low All that will happen is our younger players will be cherry picked for a crazy low transfer fee as every one now know we are so desperate If this take over does not happen were sunk, potential points being taken off us and relegation to boot. Here,s me thinking this year cant be as bad as 2020 If that is what Man City agreed as part of the loan agreement how is that "holding Man City to ransom"? It's just expecting a much richer club to fulfil the contractual obligations they agreed previously Tamworthram, LauraH, 86 Hair Islands and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Rambalin 1,108 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 11 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: Total embarrassment to be honest if you have a contract you need paying for it.It looks like we have not got a pot to hiss in We are now trying to hold Man City to ransom over Carson so we can get 500 grand loan payment this month so we can pay the players with it,have we really got this low All that will happen is our younger players will be cherry picked for a crazy low transfer fee as every one now know we are so desperate If this take over does not happen were sunk, potential points being taken off us and relegation to boot. Here,s me thinking this year cant be as bad as 2020 Derby have a player under contract they are quite within their rights to ask for a transfer fee from a club who wish to sign him. City were paying a 500k loan fee this month and were happy to do so when they did the loan deal. Change it to a transfer fee then there is no issue. Tamworthram 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ramboy63 348 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Holding Man City to ransom... over a deal they agreed to 🤣 So you seriously think City will now pay for Carson when he is out of contract in the summer anyway,according to the papers city have offered 1M for Carson to sign this month so whats the difference Link to post Share on other sites
G STAR RAM 16,818 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 26 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: Total embarrassment to be honest if you have a contract you need paying for it.It looks like we have not got a pot to hiss in We are now trying to hold Man City to ransom over Carson so we can get 500 grand loan payment this month so we can pay the players with it,have we really got this low All that will happen is our younger players will be cherry picked for a crazy low transfer fee as every one now know we are so desperate If this take over does not happen were sunk, potential points being taken off us and relegation to boot. Here,s me thinking this year cant be as bad as 2020 So just to be clear here, you think a business, that has had its income decimated by the Covid pandemic, struggling to pay wages is embarrassing. But when that business tried to get the money to pay these wages, from the richest club in the world, you think it is holding them to ransom? Strange. mike93rh, LauraH, Carnero and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Ramarena 5,607 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 30 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: Total embarrassment to be honest if you have a contract you need paying for it.It looks like we have not got a pot to hiss in We are now trying to hold Man City to ransom over Carson so we can get 500 grand loan payment this month so we can pay the players with it,have we really got this low All that will happen is our younger players will be cherry picked for a crazy low transfer fee as every one now know we are so desperate If this take over does not happen were sunk, potential points being taken off us and relegation to boot. Here,s me thinking this year cant be as bad as 2020 Think it’s the other way round. Man City sense an opportunity to try and get a player cheaper from a club in trouble, so they want to rip up the existing deal! 86 Hair Islands, Tamworthram and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to post Share on other sites
cheron85 5,988 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, ramboy63 said: So you seriously think City will now pay for Carson when he is out of contract in the summer anyway,according to the papers city have offered 1M for Carson to sign this month so whats the difference According to the papers? Cos the only link I've seen said they want to sign him for FREE now... Where's the link you have saying £1m? RoyMac5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Clough 9,762 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, ramboy63 said: So you seriously think City will now pay for Carson when he is out of contract in the summer anyway,according to the papers city have offered 1M for Carson to sign this month so whats the difference You need to re-read the papers then. Current situation: Man City give us £500k to continue loaning Carson for the rest of the season. We continue to pay his c£20k pw wages. Man CIty's proposal: Nothing up front, they pay his wages for the rest of the season. Over a 6 month period, there is no difference between the two options. However, only one option (the current one) which helps our club when we need the cash most. As I can't see them sulking and ending the loan early, I see there being three possible resolutions. The loan deal continues as planned They pay a small transfer fee as a compromise (say £250k) They pay a small transfer fee, and we cover some of the wages for the rest of the season Carnero 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkle 6,412 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Rambalin said: Derby have a player under contract they are quite within their rights to ask for a transfer fee from a club who wish to sign him. City were paying a 500k loan fee this month and were happy to do so when they did the loan deal. Change it to a transfer fee then there is no issue. If he signs a transfer deal now he may well be entitled to a loyalty bonus which we can’t afford under his contract so we may well be better off carrying on with the loan then releasing him when his contract ends - pounds shillings and pence it seems Link to post Share on other sites
Kinder 1,864 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 From the interview with Rooney on Radio Derby after the game, it doesn’t sound like the players have been paid yet. Fair play to them for coming out and putting in that performance in spite of this. 👏👏👏 r_wilcockson, Carnero, IslandExile and 5 others 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Sagan 11,356 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Kinder said: From the interview with Rooney on Radio Derby after the game, it doesn’t sound like the players have been paid yet. Fair play to them for coming out and putting in that performance in spite of this. 👏👏👏 Indeed. Terrible times at the football club so it was all the more a tremendous performance by the players to beat Bournemouth tonight. But as we head into late January it's frightening we haven't paid December wages and of course remain embargoed for good measure. Edited January 19 by Carl Sagan Kinder 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RamNut Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Hopefully we got a fee for Te wierik so that should pay one of them😝 Link to post Share on other sites
Carnero 9,579 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, RamNut said: Hopefully we got a fee for Te wierik so that should pay one of them😝 Yeah, him. IslandExile 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RoyMac5 13,332 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 "Rooney says the outstanding wages owed to the squad, to his understanding, still haven't been paid." Is this wages the normal monthly wages, or is it (as I saw a poster suggest) the deferred wages they agreed to when the covid crisis kicked off? Link to post Share on other sites
Topram 3,065 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Week now since pearce said on radio the first priority was paying the players ASAP and a week later still not, so so poor from the club Link to post Share on other sites
DCFC1388 2,841 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Rooney saying he is hoping they will be paid before Saturday's game Link to post Share on other sites
Barney1991 589 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: "Rooney says the outstanding wages owed to the squad, to his understanding, still haven't been paid." Is this wages the normal monthly wages, or is it (as I saw a poster suggest) the deferred wages they agreed to when the covid crisis kicked off? It’s there monthly wages they haven’t been paid Decembers and now haven’t been paid January’s. considering Pearce said number 1 priority was paying the players the same outcome as the takeover from this sheikh and that its amateur and ridiculous you still haven’t paid the players RoyMac5 1 Link to post Share on other sites
roboto 1,535 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Rooney saying he is hoping they will be paid before Saturday's game Link to post Share on other sites
EraniosSocks 976 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 What I don’t get is, has Morris turned into poverty overnight or? I know we are hoping to sell but surely he has the money behind him to continue running the club. Or am I being the stupid? The latter is more than likely Link to post Share on other sites
BathRam72 2,592 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Makes you wonder what makes the guys keep going. This must be affecting them and probably goes a long way into explaining the odd form. I am sure they are professional enough to play for the club but it is the Club or owners that are letting them down So very frustrated at DCFC right now. Link to post Share on other sites
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