RamLad1884 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, RamNut said: Not sure why the club felt the need to make it public. Rumours out already, if they say he was just out of the 18 then we'd have serious questions given Waggy and Lawrence are out. If they said he was injured we would have all moaned that he was too injury prone and to get rid. Ripping the plaster off might hurt now but if issues persist it could otherwise be a slow and painful process full of tabloid gossip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Don’t won’t to lambast him or write him off over this latest event. Not without knowing the full details. However my main concern is Derby County’s welfare and so far Ibe has brought nothing to the table and is looking like a poor signing. Just hope that if his attitude isn’t quite right it doesn’t affect the others and we aren’t paying him too much to twiddle his thumbs. Still hope he can come good and offer something purely for nostalgia reasons but it’s not looking likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Why? Why should we? He’s employed to play and perform, not for us to nurse maid We did our charity bit giving him the opportunity to get back into a team, presumably paying him for the privilege. If that's not enough to inspire him to put in the effort, I think we're justified in letting him go. RoyMac5, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and Norman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GboroRam said: We did our charity bit giving him the opportunity to get back into a team, presumably paying him for the privilege. If that's not enough to inspire him to put in the effort, I think we're justified in letting him go. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Srg said: If I had to guess, I'd say covid violations over christmas. Millions did above. He can be a great player for us if we manage it carefully. R@M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rampage said: Millions did above. He can be a great player for us if we manage it carefully. But he has a significant role to play in this. It is certainly not only up to dcfc to resolve this matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, GboroRam said: We did our charity bit giving him the opportunity to get back into a team, presumably paying him for the privilege. If that's not enough to inspire him to put in the effort, I think we're justified in letting him go. fair comment tho hard to be certain what's gone on if not itk But sure, players have to be self-motivating - the training footage early in the season showed JI was not close to full fitness. It also showed WR was overweight ! Edited December 29, 2020 by kevinhectoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichram Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 As I know none of the facts other than he faces an internal disciplinary and was dropped from the squad I am only in a position to speculate ie suggest possible scenarios as to what happened and why. I don’t really see the point in that. Essentially when not armed with any specific facts (though hats off to footy mum for ITK post) it’s guess work. Gossip. As another poster has recently reminded us there is big difference between fact and opinion... and speculation. Did we think that after his troubles that he would turn up to training, put his Derby top on, lose weight and terrorise defences? That, I would speculate, would have be even naive and extremely hopeful. It would have been expecting everything to have gone to plan, in a best case scenario. I envy your life if it works like that .. mine doesn’t ? - I’m a Derby fan after all ? DenmarkRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Can we please close this thread until more details are released? There are too many jumping to conclusions and making some rather unsavoury comments that I’d expect to see on Twitter not this forum. Heisenberg, norwichram, Zag zig and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 There's a whole bunch of things that are plausable to merit internal disciplinary investigation. We don't know what they are. I'm not saying it any of these (so don't anyone think I am trying to say that) but plausible reasons could include covid-19 violations, not doing work that's expected (training), attitude or behaviour (persistant lateness or absence), substance abuse (alcohol or otherwise) or any number of other things or combination of things. We don't know, so should spare judgment, but that fact there an internal investigation and that investigation has been disclosed is not a good look for him (or the club in my opinion). Whether or not depression or other issues are contributing (and we have no idea if that is the case) actions still have consiquences. If he's struggling with mental heath, that's one thing and not to knocked - professional football is a very pressurised ocupation and even with the best will in the world it may be too much for some people. Being gifted with skill is only part of what goes into making it as a pro. norwichram and Premier ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Can we please close this thread until more details are released? There are too many jumping to conclusions and making some rather unsavoury comments that I’d expect to see on Twitter not this forum. Well said. Questioning his attitude based on rumours is, at the very best, disrespectful. Tamworthram and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Can we please close this thread until more details are released? There are too many jumping to conclusions and making some rather unsavoury comments that I’d expect to see on Twitter not this forum. In total agreement with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Can we please close this thread until more details are released? There are too many jumping to conclusions and making some rather unsavoury comments that I’d expect to see on Twitter not this forum. This is a forum fella not an agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Ellafella said: Because it would leak out so best get it out officially...? Richard 246 already had wind of it .ITK. Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: There's a whole bunch of things that are plausable to merit internal disciplinary investigation. We don't know what they are. I'm not saying it any of these (so don't anyone think I am trying to say that) but plausible reasons could include covid-19 violations, not doing work that's expected (training), attitude or behaviour (persistant lateness or absence), substance abuse (alcohol or otherwise) or any number of other things or combination of things. We don't know, so should spare judgment, but that fact there an internal investigation and that investigation has been disclosed is not a good look for him (or the club in my opinion). Whether or not depression or other issues are contributing (and we have no idea if that is the case) actions still have consiquences. If he's struggling with mental heath, that's one thing and not to knocked - professional football is a very pressurised ocupation and even with the best will in the world it may be too much for some people. Being gifted with skill is only part of what goes into making it as a pro. It was his turn to do the recycling. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: This is a forum fella not an agenda Transfer rumours get shut down on here if there isn't a substantial source to the rumour. Why can't it be the same for one of our players and their current situation? I enjoy a balanced discussion about all things Derby County, but it seems as though some people are taking online rumours as fact and feeding them to others. As soon as there are more facts about the disciplinary procedure or events from reputable sources we should either close this thread (to stop further unsubstantiated rumours spreading) or make people aware that this forum isn't the place to be posting claims about players or the team without a reputable source. It all seems pretty toxic, when we should all be enjoying the recent revival of the first team and how we're doing on the pitch. Premier ram, Tamworthram, NottsRam1884 and 7 others 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I’ve heard he took a leaf out of Poyets book and pooed in the dressing room poogate is in full swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: This is a forum fella not an agenda What's that supposed to mean? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Derbados said: I’ve heard he took a leaf out of Poyets book and pooed in the dressing room poogate is in full swing Was one leaf enough to wipe clean? 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, roboto said: Transfer rumours get shut down on here if there isn't a substantial source to the rumour. Why can't it be the same for one of our players and their current situation? I enjoy a balanced discussion about all things Derby County, but it seems as though some people are taking online rumours as fact and feeding them to others. As soon as there are more facts about the disciplinary procedure or events from reputable sources we should either close this thread (to stop further unsubstantiated rumours spreading) or make people aware that this forum isn't the place to be posting claims about players or the team without a reputable source. It all seems pretty toxic, when we should all be enjoying the recent revival of the first team and how we're doing on the pitch. There is a link to this. People speculate on it, that’s what a forum is! Otherwise it’s just news. Comrade 86 and Chester40 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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