rynny Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: This Bielik is not the man we saw get injured - he's not dived into challenges at all. What has changed? The manager. I'm sure Cocu told Bielik to dive into challenges ?♂️ Or you are just spouting rubbish again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, rynny said: I'm sure Cocu told Bielik to dive into challenges ?♂️ Or you are just spouting rubbish again ? Ahhh deary me. Another upset Cocu fanster. ? You think Cocu told them to do anything? Spouting rubbish? We're just playing better because Wayne says nothing? How long have you watched football? You're wasting your time! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernRam Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Spanish said: You’re right I wish we had Phil back, he was great The tactics were horribly ineffective and we had absolutely no luck. The recruitment and the promotion of youth deserve some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Hopefully it’s nothing but in Jozwaiks insta photo beilek has a big ice pack on his knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just now, SouthernRam said: The tactics were horribly ineffective and we had absolutely no luck. The recruitment and the promotion of youth deserve some credit. Honest question do we know was he responsible for all recruitment? Guess he was for Mike but I just don’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Ahhh deary me. Another upset Cocu fanster. ? You think Cocu told them to do anything? Spouting rubbish? We're just playing better because Wayne says nothing? How long have you watched football? You're wasting your time! ? I've been watching, and playing, football for long enough, not sure what difference it makes how long someone has been watching football ?♂️ You are right I am wasting my time because everything to you was Cocu's fault and Rooney can do no wrong ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, rynny said: You are right I am wasting my time because everything to you was Cocu's fault and Rooney can do no wrong ???? So rather than make sarcy comments you tell me what the difference in Bielik is down to. Before he got injured he looked a (potential) liabilty, a ticking bomb just waiting to go off. He looks nothing like that now. Different player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: So rather than make sarcy comments you tell me what the difference in Bielik is down to. Before he got injured he looked a (potential) liabilty, a ticking bomb just waiting to go off. He looks nothing like that now. Different player. He still looked good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: So rather than make sarcy comments you tell me what the difference in Bielik is down to. Before he got injured he looked a (potential) liabilty, a ticking bomb just waiting to go off. He looks nothing like that now. Different player. He had a rash game at Wigan (I think). Beyond that, all this talk of his being a liability is way overblown. Don’t recall ever thinking it at the time and still don’t now. Seems to be revisionist history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: So rather than make sarcy comments you tell me what the difference in Bielik is down to. Before he got injured he looked a (potential) liabilty, a ticking bomb just waiting to go off. He looks nothing like that now. Different player. Maybe the injury has made him think a bit more about what he is doing? Maybe it is down to being a little less eager to prove his worth? A little less fired up without a crowd behind him. Or maybe he is just timing his tackles better and looks more in control. You tell me how you came to the conclusion it was Cocu's fault/Rooney's influence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, rynny said: You tell me how you came to the conclusion it was Cocu's fault/Rooney's influence? The team is playing to a plan that they understand, that is obvious from tonight's game. There seemed little of that under Cocu (this season especially). Also they all look fitter - not fully fit yet for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 We should sell him for at least twice what we paid probably more if we don’t get to where he needs us to be to continue his development over the next few seasons. So I can’t wait for a £5m bid from Burnley to be accepted in August ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: The team is playing to a plan that they understand, that is obvious from tonight's game. There seemed little of that under Cocu (this season especially). Also they all look fitter - not fully fit yet for some. What has that got to do with Bielik "looking like a ticking time bomb"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, rynny said: What has that got to do with Bielik "looking like a ticking time bomb"? He was often late to the challenge, tries to recover, lunges in. There was always that feeling it was going to happen. Fine you don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 52 minutes ago, Jubbs said: This what I've been trying to tell people for ages! About time everyone's seeing it, I was accused by one guy of being Bielik as I was praising him... bet that certain someone's eating his words Me sir! It’s me sir! He’s been absolutely immense since coming back. I’m over the moon for him and the club and apologise to @Jubbs profusely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, Jubbs said: This what I've been trying to tell people for ages! About time everyone's seeing it, I was accused by one guy of being Bielik as I was praising him... bet that certain someone's eating his words Don’t be that guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Bielik is starting to look a hell of a player. He showed glimpses last season but he was inconsistent before his injury. This has been his best run of games in a Derby shirt by a mile. I think this is just down to maturity and learning from previous seasons. He certainly looks far more controlled in his play. Sadly if he keeps this up it will be extremely difficult to keep hold of him next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Absolutely outstanding performance tonight. He reads the game so so well. Always in the right place to make an interception/ put a tackle in. He provides a fantastic shield for the defence, and it’s no coincidence that we’ve kept more clean sheets since he returned. He’s such a monstrous presence in that defensive midfield area, that I don’t think he needs any help there. It’s time to move to 4-3-3 permanently imo, with Bielik as the sole CDM. He is good enough to do the role on his own. It’s not just his defensive work either. He controls games from that midfield position. He always seems to be able to get the ball under control, and find some time and space, which is so important in any team. He really is a special talent, and you can tell why we paid so much for him. He’s definitely got potential to play at a higher level. Based on some of his performances last season, I do still worry that he’s got a rash decision in him, but I guess that’s to be expected in a young player. The more games he plays, the more composed he will become. And right now, he’s getting fitter and stronger as every game goes by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby blood Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 For me Bielik is looking fantastic, his power, ball retention, and eye for a pass, is driving us on, also Shinnie is forming a great partnership with the big man, and having Knights energy just in front of them is for me the best midfield 3 we have had since Mac1 days, Bielik is proving to be one hell of a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Maybe best keep it quiet till we get some cash into the club. A few PL clubs were reportedly looking at him prior to the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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