Topram Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Absolutely certain there will be departures now after watching that Rosenior interview. What was said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jourdan said: I fear that we have left it too long now. We should have made this call weeks if not months ago. Barnsley got smashed 3-0 by Cardiff days ago and QPR got soundly beaten by Blackburn today. Neither side had won away from home until they came to Pride Park. We are making everyone look good and I have no idea where the next win is coming from. I think whoever comes in has a hell of a task on their hands. I am struggling to think of anyone who this job isn’t too big for. We’ve hit rock bottom and then some. I hope Mel doesn’t lead with this in the interview process! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I’d definitely take Big Sam. I think he keeps this team up if nothing else. Seriously, relegation in this climate needs to be seriously considered as a threat that could potentially kill this football club. Turning your nose up at a manager of his ability because of his style of football really should be the least of our worries. 33 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I’m leaning towards a survival specialist now, because we’re in real danger. Normally I’d hate the idea of a big Sam, but I think we’ve got little choice now. We’ve left Cocu in the job a few games too long and put ourselves in a dire situation. The question is a pragmatic survival manager the best way to survive? I can't help but feel that we don't have the squad for "grind it out" football and the players that are perhaps suited for it aren't the best players in the squad. Afterall we've tried going more pragmatic and it didn't really work, only lead to more confusion, a lucky win and a handful competitive performances. I worry with a pragmatist we will essentially undo any good work we did last season in order to become a team that scrapes by. Personally I think we need someone who is willing to play football but can inject more belief, a rollicking if it's not going well and have conviction in their own decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 We need a change now. Not wait until we see what happens after the international break. Unless there’s some sort of performance related clauses in his contract, not sure if we can afford to sack him. And doesn’t sacking him affect FFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, bimmerman said: I'd bite your hand of for Benitez Me to, they loved him in Liverpool did the business at Chelsea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, brady1993 said: The question is a pragmatic survival manager the best way to survive? I can't help but feel that we don't have the squad for "grind it out" football and the players that are perhaps suited for it aren't the best players in the squad. Afterall we've tried going more pragmatic and it didn't really work, only lead to more confusion, a lucky win and a handful competitive performances. I worry with a pragmatist we will essentially undo any good work we did last season in order to become a team that scrapes by. Personally I think we need someone who is willing to play football but can inject more belief, a rollicking if it's not going well and have conviction in their own decisions. Have you missed that Allardyce has achieved three promotions? He's probably the manager most likely to keep us up this season and get us promoted next. I also think he is more pragmatic (in its real sense) than defensive. He appears to get the best out of the players available, rather than try to mould the players to his way of playing. Given that sustainability only comes with promotion, if I owned the club I'd go for Big Sam if I could make the contract work. As a fan I'd go for Jokanovic - but it's not my money that's melting away with every season of non-promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard246 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Allegri Manager Wenger Dof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Me to, they loved him in Liverpool did the business at Chelsea too. He’s on £12m a year in China. Hope we’ve got a few quid going spare..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Me to, they loved him in Liverpool did the business at Chelsea too. Even Newcastle fans didn't endlessly moan about him, which is some sort of miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CornwallRam said: Have you missed that Allardyce has achieved three promotions? He's probably the manager most likely to keep us up this season and get us promoted next. I also think he is more pragmatic (in its real sense) than defensive. He appears to get the best out of the players available, rather than try to mould the players to his way of playing. Given that sustainability only comes with promotion, if I owned the club I'd go for Big Sam if I could make the contract work. As a fan I'd go for Jokanovic - but it's not my money that's melting away with every season of non-promotion. Tough to argue with that. Benitez is the best of the lot but I doubt he’d fancy the shitshow that we are atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Forgive me for being daft, but who is that? I recognise him but the name escapes me It's Paulo Wanchope you dingbat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungForALamb Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Eddie Howe did wonders with what the BBC link points out was a 'limited budget'. So why would DCFC -- newly taken over by practically the world's richest man -- need those skills? I foresee an entirely different kind of gaffer coming in. Unless the powers-that-be at Pride Park really are completely inept (granted, this could indeed be so) I would be very surprised if Cocu's replacement has not already been tapped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, BOB BIGGS said: He’s on £12m a year in China. Hope we’ve got a few quid going spare..... Wow £12m for playing cautious football in China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, 61GT said: Perhaps we could tempt the chap at Forest? He would have been perfect as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydaz22 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, HungForALamb said: Eddie Howe did wonders with what the BBC link points out was a 'limited budget'. So why would DCFC -- newly taken over by practically the world's richest man -- need those skills? I foresee an entirely different kind of gaffer coming in. Unless the powers-that-be at Pride Park really are completely inept (granted, this could indeed be so) I would be very surprised if Cocu's replacement has not already been tapped up. Limited? They broke FFP while getting promoted in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Have you missed that Allardyce has achieved three promotions? He's probably the manager most likely to keep us up this season and get us promoted next. I also think he is more pragmatic (in its real sense) than defensive. He appears to get the best out of the players available, rather than try to mould the players to his way of playing. Given that sustainability only comes with promotion, if I owned the club I'd go for Big Sam if I could make the contract work. As a fan I'd go for Jokanovic - but it's not my money that's melting away with every season of non-promotion. Not known for his entertaining, attacking football though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Duncan Ferguson, give the team some fighting spirit and some passion........and the players that need it a good hiding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, derbydaz22 said: Limited? They broke FFP while getting promoted in the Championship. To be fair, the BBC article's referring to their League Two promotion, which was done on a fairly small budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Wassall and Walker have both proven themselves and know the current squad well enough to get the most out if them. Know some of the squad. If it was that easy at this level Cocu would be riding high now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Carnero said: It's Paulo Wanchope you dingbat ? Oh my days hahaha Didn't recognise him without the Derby shirt on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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