Spanish Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Gerry Daly said: Could somebody clarify if we are actually allowed to appoint Rooney under EFL rules given that he hasn't completed his badges? Just wonder whether Brian would have got all his badges? He would laugh his socks off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-Ram Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said: Could somebody clarify if we are actually allowed to appoint Rooney under EFL rules given that he hasn't completed his badges? It may have changed, and I know this was the PL (but assume they are stricter on this), but when Southgate got the Boro job, I'm sure he didn't have all his badges and it was allowed on the basis he completed them within a set amount of time? Maybe I imagined that? If it is Rooney (and I now think it will be), it will be interesting to see whether he needs to bring any more staff in, and what kind of players he will target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said: Could somebody clarify if we are actually allowed to appoint Rooney under EFL rules given that he hasn't completed his badges? It's an FA requirement for any manager or head coach of a professional club to have a UEFA A licence. I believe it takes at least 3 years to reach that level when starting from scratch. According to the Telegraph, as of August 2019, he had been doing his badges "for a few years", so may not be far off. A more recent article from the Independent go into better detail. Originally, Rooney planned on completing his A licence (required for managing in the Championship) by the end of this season, before starting the Pro licence course next season (required for managing in the PL). The reality is if it was to be Rooney, he'll be the unofficial manager and his unofficial assistant will be the official manager. There may be a chance he/we can apply to the FA for special treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: It's an FA requirement for any manager or head coach of a professional club to have a UEFA A licence. I believe it takes at least 3 years to reach that level when starting from scratch. According to the Telegraph, as of August 2019, he had been doing his badges "for a few years", so may not be far off. A more recent article from the Independent go into better detail. Originally, Rooney planned on completing his A licence (required for managing in the Championship) by the end of this season, before starting the Pro licence course next season (required for managing in the PL). The reality is if it was to be Rooney, he'll be the unofficial manager and his unofficial assistant will be the official manager. There may be a chance he/we can apply to the FA for special treatment. Thanks thats really helpful. I was sure they could find a way around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: It's an FA requirement for any manager or head coach of a professional club to have a UEFA A licence. I believe it takes at least 3 years to reach that level when starting from scratch. According to the Telegraph, as of August 2019, he had been doing his badges "for a few years", so may not be far off. A more recent article from the Independent go into better detail. Originally, Rooney planned on completing his A licence (required for managing in the Championship) by the end of this season, before starting the Pro licence course next season (required for managing in the PL). The reality is if it was to be Rooney, he'll be the unofficial manager and his unofficial assistant will be the official manager. There may be a chance he/we can apply to the FA for special treatment. I suppose they may loosen the requirement if a planned completion this year was disrupted by Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Gerry Daly said: Thanks thats really helpful. I was sure they could find a way around it Perhaps they already have. He's allowed to be "interim" manager it would seem, so carry on being "interim" manager until he's got his badges ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: Could somebody clarify if we are actually allowed to appoint Rooney under EFL rules given that he hasn't completed his badges? I read a piece by Ryan Conway in The Athletic recently that Rooney currently only holds his UEFA B License. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I'm in the band the believe one way or another a way around it would be found, and given it's Wayne Rooney the appitie to stop him might not be the same as if it was Dave Noname. Even if it's some arrangement where Steve McClaren or Liam Rosenoir is involved in the structure so that the "managment team" meet all the requirements, it'll be Rooney's show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernRam Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 The performances, and most importantly the results, have improved in the last couple of games. That being said, I still don’t believe appointing Rooney is in the long term interest of the club. Slaven Bilic sounds like he is one loss away from the sack at WBA. He or Jokanovic would be my two top picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 hours ago, James Pond said: Reports this Morning in the Derby Telegraph that the players are enjoying training again and are behind WR becoming the next Manager...sounds a good endorcement to me? Yeah - weren't they pictured "enjoying training" with the committee just before they turned in one of the most inept performances of the season so far at Boro? They ought to enjoy winning and the level of performance they are able to put in to achieve that - training should be the means to the end, not some sort of p*** about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Yeah - weren't they pictured "enjoying training" with the committee just before they turned in one of the most inept performances of the season so far at Boro? They ought to enjoy winning and the level of performance they are able to put in to achieve that - training should be the means to the end, not some sort of p*** about! Both comments you're right, Both Bogle and Lowe commented on how training wasn't something they liked, I've worked at places over my lifetime where new Managers come in with a different work ethic for a certain product, Set up a training plan with HR, No consultation with the workforce but expect a significant progress in production. The old adage is..."people don't like change" it would appear from some including myself, The players weren't at the races under Cocu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Burnley’s £200m takeover is due to be completed next week. Sean Dyche will possibly be available after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpin Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 20 hours ago, SouthernRam said: He or Jokanovic would be my two top picks. Agreed. slav or big. S. For me, also you’re exactly right on Rooney. But I fear the PR is too much for the club to resist and it’s only a matter of time before he’s confirmed. As he’s already on the wage bill (or 32 red’s) appointing him will also be a cheap option. ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Interesting to hear Ryan Conway tonight (on his Derby Digest video) say that the interview process is "underway" and that Derby have heard pitches from other candidates. That's somewhat of a relief for me, if true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Interesting to hear Ryan Conway tonight (on his Derby Digest video) say that the interview process is "underway" and that Derby have heard pitches from other candidates. That's somewhat of a relief for me, if true... I just hope it ain’t window dressing. We need to decide soon one way or the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Interesting to hear Ryan Conway tonight (on his Derby Digest video) say that the interview process is "underway" and that Derby have heard pitches from other candidates. That's somewhat of a relief for me, if true... That’s great news. It’s about time we sorted the manager situation out, 7 games with a caretaker manager in charge is ridiculous. We can’t keep waiting for the takeover to go through, if it’s still weeks away. Pleased to see we are talking to other candidates as well, I still don’t want Rooney given our precarious situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Abu Derby said: Burnley’s £200m takeover is due to be completed next week. Sean Dyche will possibly be available after that. Mr Dalek voice and a Forest fan too. No thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie George Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: Mr Dalek voice and a Forest fan too. No thank you So was Peter Taylor. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: That’s great news. It’s about time we sorted the manager situation out, 7 games with a caretaker manager in charge is ridiculous. We can’t keep waiting for the takeover to go through, if it’s still weeks away. Pleased to see we are talking to other candidates as well, I still don’t want Rooney given our precarious situation. We have to appoint the manager that the takeover crew want. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Interesting to hear Ryan Conway tonight (on his Derby Digest video) say that the interview process is "underway" and that Derby have heard pitches from other candidates. That's somewhat of a relief for me, if true... Wonder who’s listening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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