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14 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

Cook looks a sensible option on paper, but I’ve still got nagging doubts about him. Never taken on a job this big before, and he had some terrible runs of form with Wigan - exactly like the one we’re on now. Infinitely better shout than Rooney mind.

A risk being Clement, a risk being lampard, maybe Rooney or Terry or even Cocu.

a risk was not Pearson in theory or Rowett actually Rowett was the most solid we looked in ages but it was a hard watch just like Clement 

Cook would not expect to be working with lots of money unlike all of those mentioned 

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9 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said:

I wouldn’t be against Paul Cook getting the job however TBF @S8TY Liam Rosenior talks very well on TV too ?? just sayin ??

Yet Rosenior hasn’t cut his teeth at Chesterfield Portsmouth and wigan. I want someone who knows what he is doing and knows the players, the players  available and the other teams in the same league.

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14 hours ago, brady1993 said:

DUE TO START ? Am I reading that correctly ? What have we been playing at ?

They’re actually working remarkably quickly considering the circumstances.

If you worked for Toyota or Rolls or any company of any size at all and sacked a group of 3 senior managers, then to avoid subsequent tribunals you would have to agree a settlement with them each individually. Mainly that’s about money, but not all of it. There will be timescales and banks and currencies to consider. That takes time and lawyers and accountants on both sides.

Lets then say you want to employ successors but you also have a number of possible internal candidates some of whom may have a BAME background. You want to employ a new team but you have to be seen to be fair to avoid claims of racial, age or any other discrimination. You cannot be seen to have decided upon your new team in advance of a fair process being carried out that gives all those people time to prepare for their interview and the selection process. You may also be actively required to include people from a BAME background in the process and to do so you might have to set up discussions with people currently employed elsewhere, or their representatives.

You then have to select, fairly, a shortlist and set up an interview panel which could potentially involve people from overseas. There might be several such interviews possibly including the use of technology which the candidates may need to have time to prepare for. You might want to set aside several days and have more than one interview.

You may want to test the internal candidates against external candidates, some, but not all, of whom might be out of work and available immediately. You may have to get permission to talk to current employers. You might want to get an idea of what any external candidates might want by way of salary and other terms before you decide whether you want to interview them. All of that takes time.

And let’s say that your company is also in the midst of a possible takeover. The future is uncertain. It’s certainly even more complex than it might normally be and complexity delays processes.

If Derby have done all of that in two weeks (and maybe moving Phillip, Chris and Twan wasn't something they planned much in advance) then they are moving on very, very quickly.

Alternatively, of course, they could run roughshod over their own and the EFL's policies, ignore employment law and good practice and just announce who they want to appoint. And then get stuffed in a succession of tribunals.

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5 hours ago, Nuwtfly said:

Reading an article about Forest in The Athletic this morning, and was interested by this line when talking about who was interested in taking the Forest job before Hughton came in:

"It is also clear that, even after two decades out of the Premier League, Forest are still an attractive proposition. The club’s information was that Sam Allardyce, Eddie Howe and Nigel Pearson were interested in the vacancy, as well as the manager of another Championship club."

Wishful thinking, perhaps, but surely Sam and Eddie could also be interested in the Derby job? Or maybe were four games or so ago?

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More likely at this point

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6 hours ago, Nuwtfly said:

Wishful thinking, perhaps, but surely Sam and Eddie could also be interested in the Derby job? Or maybe were four games or so ago?

What self respecting manager wouldn't be interested in the Derby job? Sam and Eddie would mud wrestle for it.

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3 minutes ago, dlm77 said:

Do people get paid for writing for HITC?

"McGarry is well connected within football, so it’s certainly curious that he hasn’t heard Terry’s name mentioned.

The Chelsea legend has been spoken about as one of the frontrunners for the job, so the fact that McGarry has heard nothing about it is rather strange."

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6 hours ago, Sparkle said:

A risk being Clement, a risk being lampard, maybe Rooney or Terry or even Cocu.

a risk was not Pearson in theory or Rowett actually Rowett was the most solid we looked in ages but it was a hard watch just like Clement 

Cook would not expect to be working with lots of money unlike all of those mentioned 

What? I didn’t mention anything about him being a risk? All managers are really, so that shouldn’t be a huge consideration.

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So on the 15th of November, the club tweet this...

And yet today, on the 2nd of December, The Derby Telegraph are reporting that "The Rams have not yet spoken to or interviewed candidates for the post" (https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Derby-county-rooney-terry-manager-4759377)

You've even got our "interim manager" now saying that this all needs to get sorted for the good of the club so we can get moving forward. So what the *uck are they playing at? I'm not buying the "waiting for the owners" rubbish because if they can make a joint decision (Mel and the Sheikh) to sack the previous manager then they can bloody well get on with hiring one. 

 

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