oldtimeram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: 9/1 on? Sounds a bit pointless £10 return for a £1 bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I've had a tenner, 100 quid once he is confirmed, happy days. I put £15 on at 9/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: £10 return for a £1 bet As I said, I thought he meant 9/1 on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Technical director doesn't play second fiddle to the manager. He's above him in the hierarchy. So last time McClaren was boss, you are saying his Technical Director Chris Evans was above him in the hierarchy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, i-Ram said: So last time McClaren was boss, you are saying his Technical Director Chris Evans was above him in the hierarchy? This is the main problem with all this 'technical director / director of football' stuff. Chain of command is unclear. Who's in charge, the bloke who oversees the big picture or the bloke who picks the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, i-Ram said: So last time McClaren was boss, you are saying his Technical Director Chris Evans was above him in the hierarchy? Hmm, good point. I'd forgotten we'd had a technical director before. I'd have though McClaren would be performing a different role than Evans, though the use of the same job title makes me question this. I still doubt this role will seen him playing second fiddle to Rooney or any other inexperienced manager, though. If, in three months' time, you judge this to be the case (must be an inexperienced manager), I'll graciously donate £20 to a charity of your choice. I'm still confident of my Bill Gates bet though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 JT 4/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Hmm, good point. I'd forgotten we'd had a technical director before. I'd have though McClaren would be performing a different role than Evans, though the use of the same job title makes me question this. I still doubt this role will seen him playing second fiddle to Rooney or any other inexperienced manager, though. If, in three months' time, you judge this to be the case (must be an inexperienced manager), I'll graciously donate £20 to a charity of your choice. I'm still confident of my Bill Gates bet though! You are my favourite charity case. Spend the money on something wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: This is the main problem with all this 'technical director / director of football' stuff. Chain of command is unclear. Who's in charge, the bloke who oversees the big picture or the bloke who picks the team? I bet the bloke who picks the team is on more dosh. As per my email above/below to Nick, McClaren seems to have been appointed as Technical Director, and not Director of Football. When Chris Evans was last around he had the same title, and would surely have been secondary to McClaren. I think Mac is simply there as ‘old hands’ to support the young coaching team and Manager (Rooney if he grabs a couple of wins in the next 8 days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I'd be willing to bet you all of that 10 billion that he wouldn't. Would not go back ? Or would not rick you with a needle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, i-Ram said: You are my favourite basket case. Spend the money on something wisely. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Maybe the bookies know something we dont. The bookies stand to lose lots if Rooney gets it, I bet a few have jumped on at 7 or even 9/1. You would have thought as soon as Mac was announced the odds for Rooney would have shortened. Could be Terry after all, alongside Mac I'd be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Maybe the bookies know something we dont. The bookies stand to lose lots if Rooney gets it, I bet a few have jumped on at 7 or even 9/1. You would have thought as soon as Mac was announced the odds for Rooney would have shortened. Could be Terry after all, alongside Mac I'd be happy with that. Me too even if I lose £15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Archied said: Would not go back ? Or would not rick you with a needle? Wouldn’t go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl of Tupton Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Not sure how I feel about this to be honest. I'm leaning to the side of the sceptics. There doesn't seem to be any clear remit as to who will be doing what and I share the concern others have mentioned on here regarding the danger of 'too many cooks'. I was never personally in favour of reverting to the McClaren route as a manager for reasons discussed elsewhere on this board, namely that he seems to have a shelf-life and cant arrest a slide once it has started. But I guess this time it's a different role so will be interesting to see how this pans out. I just hope there's a solid plan because now is not the time for experimentation given the position we are in. I would not be at all surprised if McClaren's role in the short-term will be on the training ground operating on an interim basis. Whether that is to work as an interim head coach while mentoring Rooney/Rosenior or work with another manager or head coach remains to be seen. But it's clear he club have opted to bring someone in who knows the club from top to bottom and has experience - even if his overall record is somewhat chequered - with the idea of bringing about some stability and a turn-around on the pitch. He has delivered the short-term bounce before so let's hope he will do so again. Long term? who knows? Will depend upon the master plan the new owners have in store. At least this sends out a strong message that the takeover is very much going ahead or this would not have happened and they certainly would not have installed him in the role already. But as with all of our other managers he will get my support even if I am feeling slightly underwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The more I think about this, and i'm pleased he's back at the club, the more it seems he's going to be holding the hands of a young manager. So for me it's either Rooney, Terry or Rosenior. I'd be happy with Rooney or Terry now Mac's back Liam for me is too Textbook, he talks like he's reading a script. I think he'll be a good coach but I can see him leaving once the new manager is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, i-Ram said: I just did GOC. I am not sure how you picked anything out of that which leads you to that view? Read between the lines when he's talking about being player-manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, i-Ram said: I bet the bloke who picks the team is on more dosh. As per my email above/below to Nick, McClaren seems to have been appointed as Technical Director, and not Director of Football. When Chris Evans was last around he had the same title, and would surely have been secondary to McClaren. I think Mac is simply there as ‘old hands’ to support the young coaching team and Manager (Rooney if he grabs a couple of wins in the next 8 days). I really hope it's not Rooney! It looks like it will be with putting mcclaren in that roll, anyone apart from that useless twit I'd even take Terry or jody morris over Rooney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Can someone lump some money on Pochettino getting the job? He's worked under TD/DoF's a lot and would be much better than any of the names consistently linked. I just want to see the odds tumble so I can get my hopes up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Read between the lines when he's talking about being player-manager Thing is he couldn't say different at this stage if he's not been offered it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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