Sparkle Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Well the league table is saying exactly where we should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: But the reality is that we're bottom of the table. Don't understand the question? Or is this a way of covertly insinuating that Cocu wasn't as bad as he was cracked up to be as the material he had to work with was appalling. No, that wasn't the purpose at all. Sheesh. We're bottom of the table. Personally, I don't think we should be there with our squad but, in truth, I don't think we're good enough to be challenging for the playoffs either. I'd say we're good enough to be midtable so, if anything, that reflects badly on Cocu. I just wondered how other people rated the quality of the squad. That's all. Nothing covert. Nothing untoward. Just straightforward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Well the league table is saying exactly where we should be Yes. Clearly. That's where we are and where we deserve to be. However, I'm really trying to see how people rate the quality of the squad so one measure of that is where they think we should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 11–12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Head says relegation fodder heart says mid table We have some good young prospects & they have been a bright light but it does feel like too many too soon. They're good prospects but theyre not all good championship players. Buchanan & knight have been decent. Bird & sibley have been a bit hot & cold. But also the experience around them isn't that great. How are they meant to shine when then rest of the side is rubbish Holmes was a league one player & this season has shown league one quality. Waghorn runs a lot but never been prolific. Colin holds it up well & puts himself about but isn't prolific. Davies will head a boot but is passed it. Wisdom lacks concentration. Lawrence is poor decision making & runs into trouble We lack quality experienced players. We overate our players. None of the experienced pro's in our team get in the current top ten championship sides. This side is terrible. Whilst i thought Bradley Johnson & huddlestone were poor they walk into this team on current form. At least Bradley will break up play. We lack quality & are a very poor team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 At home againt 2 cr@p teams and we got 2 points. We are bottom half at best. Both Wycombe and Coventry most probably expect to be there. we shouldnt but we are and after fourteen games should not be suprprised to be there as it has been poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Luton are a great example of why I don’t think we are as bad as people suggest. If they see out the game tonight, they will be 11th or 12th at the close of play. Are you telling me they have a top half squad? Prior to tonight, Luton have beaten Barnsley, Rotherham, Wycombe, us and Sheff Wed. The Championship is a simple league but we have just been making very hard work of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, NottsRam77 said: Erm ... realistic ??! we’re realistically rooted to the foot of the table the squad Is there because it’s not good enough and not been managed well enough end of story Well yes, that is the harsh reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66DegreesNorth Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 There is enough talent in this squad to get us safe, players are really lacking on confidence and self belief. There are a few managers out there that could come in and really invigorate this lot, get them loving football again and more importantly get them playing the way that we know we can. We can debate till the cows come home who that maybe, but we won't have a say in the matter anyhow. There's nothing more frustrating than knowing its out of your control and that you cannot influence things, especially not being at PP to vent your views. We shouldn't be giving up on the playing staff just yet because we have the talent, we need the leader that will come in, put an arm around certain individuals, calm others and install belief that we are so desperately lacking. Fingers crossed the board have a clue on which 'leader' they are going to appoint. COYR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, IslandExile said: Yes. Clearly. That's where we are and where we deserve to be. However, I'm really trying to see how people rate the quality of the squad so one measure of that is where they think we should be. Mid table if we played well but without a real centre forward for half a season makes it much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 23 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: it's asking where should the squad be not including what the managers have done. No one should be or has right to be anywhere ... we’re Bottom cos we deserve to be The league table doesn’t lie we’ve had enough games to show if we’re better than the position we are suggests we can’t defend ,we can’t score enough goals there’s no sugar coating it were a poor side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 21 hours ago, 66DegreesNorth said: There is enough talent in this squad to get us safe, players are really lacking on confidence and self belief. There are a few managers out there that could come in and really invigorate this lot, get them loving football again and more importantly get them playing the way that we know we can. We can debate till the cows come home who that maybe, but we won't have a say in the matter anyhow. There's nothing more frustrating than knowing its out of your control and that you cannot influence things, especially not being at PP to vent your views. We shouldn't be giving up on the playing staff just yet because we have the talent, we need the leader that will come in, put an arm around certain individuals, calm others and install belief that we are so desperately lacking. Fingers crossed the board have a clue on which 'leader' they are going to appoint. COYR!! The start of ur post infers that were too good to go down we are most certainly not too good to go down ... far from it 1 win in ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 At present if we finish 21st I would be delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66DegreesNorth Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: The start of ur post infers that were too good to go down we are most certainly not too good to go down ... far from it 1 win in ......... No it doesn't. those are your words, I have the opinion that there is enough talent in the current squad to get us safe. Question is, who is going to get it out on the pitch and turn into points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 we are exactly where we should be in the table, our squad is pants and overrated. maybe on good form we could push 21-18 but thats it. dont forget last season we had the best conversion rate in the entire division so massively punched above our weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 League One, mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 hours ago, wollatonram said: we are exactly where we should be in the table, our squad is pants and overrated. maybe on good form we could push 21-18 but thats it. dont forget last season we had the best conversion rate in the entire division so massively punched above our weight This @66DegreesNorth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 hours ago, NottsRam77 said: The start of ur post infers that were too good to go down we are most certainly not too good to go down ... far from it 1 win in ......... Surely “enough talent” would have mustered more than one solitary and rather fortunate win ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Midtable, but only if the players had been well versed in a completely different style of play, mixed passing, high tempo etc. Too late now, i should think. Going down down down down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PendineRam Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Poor squad, imbalanced, lacking creativity and firepower with too many deadweights! Relegation fodder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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