Dimmu Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 No one likes I told you so's... but I told you so. ? My own quote from his transfer thread. I absolutely love this signing! At 34, he is at optimal age to be a target man. Remember Grant Holt? He had his best season as 34 and he is not the only one. He should still have needed physicality and finally having the mentality and the understanding of the game at the level it demands. I gladly take him over our other striker options. HorsforthRam, Ramarena, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dimmu said: No one likes I told you so's... but I told you so. ? My own quote from his transfer thread. I absolutely love this signing! At 34, he is at optimal age to be a target man. Remember Grant Holt? He had his best season as 34 and he is not the only one. He should still have needed physicality and finally having the mentality and the understanding of the game at the level it demands. I gladly take him over our other striker options. That's easy to say with hindsight ? Dimmu and 1967Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 15 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: It's the black power salute. Good on him. Not sure about that and it is a dangerous subject because some may try to twist my comments into a racist context. Doing something different to everybody else is wrong IMO. Taking the knee is about a statement against discrimination against all groups not just one group. What he does is being interpreted as superiority by those wishing to defend the booing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Spanish said: Not sure about that and it is a dangerous subject because some may try to twist my comments into a racist context. Doing something different to everybody else is wrong IMO. Taking the knee is about a statement against discrimination against all groups not just one group. What he does is being interpreted as superiority by those wishing to defend the booing. I don't particually want to get into the subject here, and there's threads on it elsewhere, but in a nutshell I wholeheartedly support CKR doing it. From him, it's genuine, heartfelt and a definance against perdudice and injustice. He shouldn't do it because racists will claim he's the one who is racist.....what kind of BS is that? That's my two pennies worth, and I'm probably not the one who's going to solve the wider issues of racism in sports an society. sunnyhill60, Dimmu and norwichram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 RadioactiveWaste and norwichram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 15 hours ago, nottingram said: Quick reminder ?? What a bitter little man Maguire is. And, as ever, hopelessly incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I don't particually want to get into the subject here, and there's threads on it elsewhere, but in a nutshell I wholeheartedly support CKR doing it. From him, it's genuine, heartfelt and a definance against perdudice and injustice. He shouldn't do it because racists will claim he's the one who is racist.....what kind of BS is that? That's my two pennies worth, and I'm probably not the one who's going to solve the wider issues of racism in sports an society. He should take the knee, no reason not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Spanish said: He should take the knee, no reason not to I don't want to offend people so I will put it simply : 1.Taking the knee is a physical symbol of deference and submission. 2. BLM is political 3.BLM does not support all black people it supports black people who feel marginalised, the black power stance is more suitable for someone who has a strong sense of agency and pride. Not saying nobody should do it, but it's not for everyone and it wouldn't be for me either. I support him doing whatever he wants nobody should be forced to do anything as thats is authoritarian. Edited December 6, 2020 by Marriot Ram99 cstand and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) I had a feeling Kazim would be a good signing just of the basis off his galatasary highlights and his recent spell in Mexico, you don't have the technique to play as a Nani style winger as a youngster and brute strength and then not be a good championship target man. Edited December 6, 2020 by Marriot Ram99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) CKR has done well but at 34yrs old is he just a stop gap signing for one season we need a least two quality younger strikers that can take us forward so I would thank for him his services at the end of the season but should be released. Edited December 6, 2020 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cstand said: CKR has done well but at 34yrs old is he just a stop gap signing for one season we need a least two quality younger strikers that can take us forward so I would thank for him his services at the end of the season but should be released. If hes not able to run then yes, but at 35 he still might be good. I know it's an extreme example but I'm pretty sure Ibrahimovic is 39 now and top scorer in the Serie A and Vardy is getting on and still a very good player. If hes still fit then he could do another season probably. Edited December 6, 2020 by Marriot Ram99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 What I also like about CKR is that he seems to genuinely appreciate the backing he gets from the club as well. Dimmu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Also, I think some credit needs to go to Cocu. Probably knew the signing wouldnt appease the fans but was smart enough to give CKR a few weeks training at the club to see how he was both as a player and as a person before signing him Dimmu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: I don't want to offend people so I will put it simply : 1.Taking the knee is a physical symbol of deference and submission. 2. BLM is political 3.BLM does not support all black people it supports black people who feel marginalised, the black power stance is more suitable for someone who has a strong sense of agency and pride. Not saying nobody should do it, but it's not for everyone and it wouldn't be for me either. I support him doing whatever he wants nobody should be forced to do anything as thats is authoritarian. that argument ends up with people being forced into taking the knee when some don't want to. To me that feels uncomfortably close to justifying booing in some odd people's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Also, I think some credit needs to go to Cocu. Probably knew the signing wouldnt appease the fans but was smart enough to give CKR a few weeks training at the club to see how he was both as a player and as a person before signing him or he hadn't had the time to change him into the sort of player that works in his weird game plan. Cocu was awful and we were down if we had kept on with this. We both have different views on Cocu and I dare say we will look on evidence in different ways RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Spanish said: that argument ends up with people being forced into taking the knee when some don't want to. To me that feels uncomfortably close to justifying booing in some odd people's eyes. Nothing wrong with booing depending on the motive for it to me, as I've said some will be racist but if you don't know peoples motives you can't claim everyone to be the same. It's peoples right to express themselves and booing is hardly guaranteed to be done with hate, wouldn't boo myself in that situation because of how it comes across. Also people already are forced into the taking the knee, and because we live in a PC anti political culture the sort of questions that should be had aren't being raised, alot of people will be pissed about it but will do it to conform. The BBC is helping to spread an anti politics where nothing PC can be questioned, very dangerous and counter productive I think. Edited December 6, 2020 by Marriot Ram99 RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 In the nicest possible way he adds that bit of horrible-ness we have been missing a bit of steel & fight. I like how he encourages others but what i really like he's a player that wont be bullied Marriot Ram99 and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Who would have thought it? This bloke could be our new cult hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Who would have thought it? This bloke could be our new cult hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I like his no nonsense and positive attitude, seems a real fight for the badge type of player who won't give up and also is a better striker than Waghorn on this seasons evidence. BriggRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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