admira Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 He comes in between Clough Jnr and Addison: Did Clement feel better than Lampard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, admira said: Did Clement feel better than Lampard? Both inferior to Arthur and TBE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I wanna hear again how Mac failed either times. Pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Andicis said: I wanna hear again how Mac failed either times. Pretty hilarious. Blew a 5 point lead at the top and ended outside the play offs ? Pretty easy question to answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, BIllyD said: Blew a 5 point lead at the top and ended outside the play offs ? Pretty easy question to answer that. Yes, context is entirely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Two points for me. 1: Interesting to see how many of our recent managers are near the top of the list. One thing that a decade in the Championship has done for us is allow us - up to now - to win most of our games. 2: Arthur's record is pretty impressive, I know a fair chunk of that was the rise from the bottom but given we only spent one season in the old second division that is a pretty impressive return in over 450 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 And a lot of fans instantly dismiss the idea of Wassall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG400 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Andicis said: I wanna hear again how Mac failed either times. Pretty hilarious. Success in this league is measured by Promotion for a team Derby's size , ending up in the top 6 every season and losing in the playoffs is not good enough , it just gives you a chance which you have to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, admira said: Did Clement feel better than Lampard? We started off very well. Our form dipped and we sacked him before things got even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Interesting that we don't have many with over 100 games in charge (and 3 of those were only a few games past that mark). Shows the constant chopping and changing we have had over the years. Part of the problem or just symptomatic of football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cardinal said: Interesting that we don't have many with over 100 games in charge (and 3 of those were only a few games past that mark). Shows the constant chopping and changing we have had over the years. Part of the problem or just symptomatic of football? I suppose that the more successful managers (i.e. Sir Alex and Wenger) stay in the job a long time, probably because they are successful!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cardinal said: Interesting that we don't have many with over 100 games in charge (and 3 of those were only a few games past that mark). Shows the constant chopping and changing we have had over the years. Part of the problem or just symptomatic of football? The list doesn't include any managers from before Clough. Harry Newbould - 376 games, 40.16% Jimmy Methven - 498 games, 40.56% Cecil Potter - 137 games, 45.26% George Jobey - 629 games, 43.40% Ted Magner - 11 games, 81.82% Stuart McMillan - 346 games, 42.2% Jack Barker - 64 games, 18.75% Harry Storer - 332 games, 41.27% Tim Ward - 219 games, 32.88% Caretaker managers are also excluded: Jimmy Gordon - 2 games, 50% Billy McEwan - 3 games, 100% Mark Lillis - 1 game, 100% Terry Westley - 16 games, 25% Chris Hutchings - 1 game, 100% David Lowe - 1 game, 100% Wassall Mk I - 1 game, 0% Chris Powell - 2 games, 50% Liam Rosenior - 1 game, 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, admira said: I suppose that the more successful managers (i.e. Sir Alex and Wenger) stay in the job a long time, probably because they are successful!) Very true. Would be nice to find one of those for us!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The trouble with these sorts of comparisons is that success is relative to the squad you have at the time. That list isn’t the Derby managers in order of success, it’s the Derby managers in terms of “enjoyment” I suppose, if winning games is the main parameter for enjoying a football match. I mean Cocu definitely did better than some managers on that list. I’d say his first season was pretty successful given everything thrown at him. It’s just the start of his second season was a complete disaster, which puts him further down the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Worst manager ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: And a lot of fans instantly dismiss the idea of Wassall... Many people’s view probably formed from 1 game........... what we would give for 3 goals and a point at Rotherham now! That said, I wouldn’t want to lose Walsall from the Academy.......he’s obviously doing a lot right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Wassall > B. Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyram Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Having watched the team under every manager in that table, when you read the list from Cocu down its no wonder I'm scarred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyNutter Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Andicis said: I wanna hear again how Mac failed either times. Pretty hilarious. By not scoring against QPR with few chances and that we failed to kick the ball away. Also for 2nd time around we have had injuries suspension etc which was Steve McClaren failed to stop poor runs etc. He failed twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: The list doesn't include any managers from before Clough. Harry Newbould - 376 games, 40.16% Jimmy Methven - 498 games, 40.56% Cecil Potter - 137 games, 45.26% George Jobey - 629 games, 43.40% Ted Magner - 11 games, 81.82% Stuart McMillan - 346 games, 42.2% Jack Barker - 64 games, 18.75% Harry Storer - 332 games, 41.27% Tim Ward - 219 games, 32.88% Caretaker managers are also excluded: Jimmy Gordon - 2 games, 50% Billy McEwan - 3 games, 100% Mark Lillis - 1 game, 100% Terry Westley - 16 games, 25% Chris Hutchings - 1 game, 100% David Lowe - 1 game, 100% Wassall Mk I - 1 game, 0% Chris Powell - 2 games, 50% Liam Rosenior - 1 game, 0% Who is Ted Magner managing now? Get him in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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