Jimbo Ram Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I am not worried about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcollie Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 season doesn't technically finish till the playoff final so there is still a very small chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 When is a decision due ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 EFL couldn't deduct points now, and I doubt they would even if we lose the appeal. I suspect they'll fine us and make us re-submit the accounts using straight line amortisation. It'll then be a case of a points deduction for next season if we then fail the next round of P&S. Unfortunately, there is still a way we could get relegated even without a points deduction; if Shef Wed somehow found a way to overturn theirs. It's hugely unlikely and actually almost impossible in the necessary time frame, but if I were their owner, I'd have my lawyers looking at it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandram Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, dcfcollie said: season doesn't technically finish till the playoff final so there is still a very small chance! no the cut off was in march so the play offs make sod all difference to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Well this has put a right downer on things. Sheff could over turn their points deduction and we could land our self in one if the appeal is successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, BuckoBeast said: Well this has put a right downer on things. Sheff could over turn their points deduction and we could land our self in one if the appeal is successful I really don't think they actually could, but it is a very remote theoretical possibility. Of course we'd then appeal...which would be another amusing episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPlinkett Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I don't understand the discussion here, the season is over, there has already been an appeal by Wednesday which resulted in a reduced points deduction, we have past the deadline on point deductions. Its done dusted, finito..complete, finished. IslandExile, DCFC1388, r_wilcockson and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, BuckoBeast said: Well this has put a right downer on things. Sheff could over turn their points deduction and we could land our self in one if the appeal is successful No it hasn't. They've had all season to overturn a points deduction, and were partly successful having it reduced to 6. Their deduction is fully finalised and incontestable. Our appeal is for a relatively minor offense, no way could the EFL deduct points even if successful. gccrowdpleaser, r_wilcockson and rynny 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Rumour has it that the EFL have just charged us with bringing the game into disrepute for allowing the players to celebrate with the fans. Possible punishment is to relegate us forthwith. Just kidding but wouldn't it just be our luck after dodging a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: Rumour has it that the EFL have just charged us with bringing the game into disrepute for allowing the players to celebrate with the fans. Possible punishment is to relegate us forthwith. Just kidding but wouldn't it just be our luck after dodging a bullet. You really had us all going then ? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 We need this appeal to be resolved asap, didnt the hearing take place a couple of months ago, surely a decision will be made sooon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said: We need this appeal to be resolved asap, didnt the hearing take place a couple of months ago, surely a decision will be made sooon I can think of no good reason why the decision on a very limited aspect of the original charges should have been delayed this long. I take comfort from the obvious joy shown by Mel at the end of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 59 minutes ago, Spanish said: I can think of no good reason why the decision on a very limited aspect of the original charges should have been delayed this long. I take comfort from the obvious joy shown by Mel at the end of the game Why has it taken so long? The only reason I can think of is that the panel has found the issues more difficult that our fans think it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcollie Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Done some digging on the EFL website. Unless I am completely mistaken (very possible). I think we are safe 12.3 Subject to the provisions of Regulation 12.4 below, where the Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, or the Board impose a deduction in accordance with Regulation 12.2: 12.3.1 during the Normal Playing Season but prior to 5.00pm on the fourth Thursday in March, the points deduction shall apply immediately; 12.3.2 during the Normal Playing Season but after 5.00pm on the fourth Thursday in March, Regulation 12.4 shall apply; and 12.3.3 outside the Normal Playing Season, the points deduction shall apply in respect of the following Season such that the Club starts that Season on minus 12 points (including in the National League if appropriate). 12.4 Where the circumstances set out in Regulation 12.3.2 apply and at the end of that Season, having regard to the number of championship points awarded (ignoring any potential deduction): 12.4.1 the Club would be relegated in accordance with Regulation 10.1.2(b) or 7.7, the points deduction will apply in the next following Season (including in the National League if appropriate); or 12.4.2 the Club would not be relegated as aforesaid, the points deduction will apply in that Season and Regulation 10.1.2(b) or 7.7 will then apply (if appropriate) following imposition of the points deduction. Spanish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 According to Alan Nixon in today Sun quotes the following Sunsports understands an independent disciplinary appeals is ready to come down in favour of EFL who have refused to accept defeat in the cash row. The charges were dismissed by first independent disciplinary commission in August 2020, but with several clubs angered by the outcome the EFL appealed. Top sources claim the decision had already been taken but was kept secret as Derby fought for championship survival. It then goes on to say that Mel Morris club could be hit with a points deduction next season that runs into double figures. Similar to Sheffield Wednesday this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HariboWest Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 The feel good factor lasted long.... ? Pearl Ram, Dimmu, DarkFruitsRam7 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajstrawb Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Anyone got the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Can we appeal for another season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: According to Alan Nixon in today Sun quotes the following Sunsports understands an independent disciplinary appeals is ready to come down in favour of EFL who have refused to accept defeat in the cash row. The charges were dismissed by first independent disciplinary commission in August 2020, but with several clubs angered by the outcome the EFL appealed. Top sources claim the decision had already been taken but was kept secret as Derby fought for championship survival. It then goes on to say that Mel Morris club could be hit with a points deduction next season that runs into double figures. Similar to Sheffield Wednesday this season. They were only appealing the lesser of the charges they initially accused us of so really don't see this. 1967Ram, rynny, LeedsCityRam and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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