Ghost of Clough Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Not the case bud. The deadline for any points deduction this season has long since elapsed, so were a points deduction even a possible outcome, it'd have to be next season and not this one. Furthermore, the crux of the EFL case seems to be that we failed inform them of our amortisation processes, not that there was an issue with them (our methodology has already been confirmed to be both fair and legal) and in so much, a points deduction wouldn't really be an option for either season anyway. I really think this has been done to absolute death over recent weeks, so maybe we should just move on now? We've currently got bigger fish to fry. Just to add, the appeal is only against the outcome of the hearing. Simply, did the panel reach the correct decision based on the evidence provided. No new evidence could be submitted. Reports earlier in the season suggested the EFL don't even know their own rules and wished to submit new evidence ?♂️ If that was the basis of their appeal, then I can't wait to see the new decision document. The last one had me giggling for weeks. Carl Sagan and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I've heard that the EFL are working on changing the rules if we stay up (we will!) and there will be automatic points deduction based on arrangement of letters in a clubs name. Any club whose letters are arranged D - E - R - B - Y will get a 24 points deduction! This season too! #youhearditherefirst angieram, ck-, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Yes. If we aren't relegated at the end of the season, then any potential deduction would apply this season (regardless of the size off the deduction). "Normal Playing Season" is only up until the final league game though (not including playoffs etc), so they would have to award the deduction before the final game. I have no idea how any potential appeals (if they are permitted) would affect that though. Just to point out Sheff Wednesday's verdict was reached last season, but the penalty only awarded to this season. The reason for this was given in the decision document. For consistency, any points penalty has to be next season r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, GenBr said: You are entitled to your opinion, but a points deduction is still very much possible and I'll discuss what I want regardless of how much it has been discussed over recent weeks - that is the point of the forum. Until the EFL verdict is finalised you are going to have to live with the consequences being discussed on here. ? There's a dedicated thread for this stuff, as you well know and even by your own admission, no points deduction of any relevance at all will be applied this season anyway! This has been covered off ad nauseum so I'm not sure why you're so offended when folk point that out that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I've heard that the EFL are working on changing the rules if we stay up (we will!) and there will be automatic points deduction based on arrangement of letters in a clubs name. Any club whose letters are arranged D - E - R - B - Y will get a 24 points deduction! This season too! #youhearditherefirst Heard the EFL are changing the title for Financial Fair Play to LTIOODES .Let take it out on Derby every season . Edited April 29, 2021 by Curtains Mostyn6 and Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I've heard that the EFL are working on changing the rules if we stay up (we will!) and there will be automatic points deduction based on arrangement of letters in a clubs name. Any club whose letters are arranged D - E - R - B - Y will get a 24 points deduction! This season too! #youhearditherefirst Don’t give the idiots any ideas ?? Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Just to add, the appeal is only against the outcome of the hearing. Simply, did the panel reach the correct decision based on the evidence provided. No new evidence could be submitted. Reports earlier in the season suggested the EFL don't even know their own rules and wished to submit new evidence ?♂️ If that was the basis of their appeal, then I can't wait to see the new decision document. The last one had me giggling for weeks. It was exactly the same the first time around. People were told repeatedly that there was no case to answer and yet still they tried to rise every ounce of melodrama from the situation. This appeal is even more spurious than the original charge but that hasn't prevented a repeat dose. All that's missing is another 20 page debate on amortisation policies ?♂️ Ghost of Clough and Curtains 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 https://www.derbycounty.news/news/report-claims-Derby-still-face-potential-points-deduction-amid-efl-appeal/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 52 minutes ago, Curtains said: Where is all this point deduction stuff coming from. No chance of a points deduction It's a bit like "Fight Club". At first, we appear to be fighting others, but in the end we see that we are really just beating ourselves up. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Oldben said: https://www.derbycounty.news/news/report-claims-Derby-still-face-potential-points-deduction-amid-efl-appeal/amp/ Quote While a fine is the most plausible outcome, the Daily Mail claim there is still the possibility of a points deduction with Derby vowing to rigorously resist the EFL appeal. The Daily Fail at the forefront of truthful reporting... Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) Sheffield Wednesday were first charged by the EFL in November 2019 after the league found that the club had breached the £39 million permitted losses set out in the profitability and sustainability regulations. https://theathletic.com/news/sheffield-wednesday-point-deduction-why/RQQWPE5H9k6N Are there similarities between Derby and Sheffield wednesday? Edited April 29, 2021 by ThePrisoner Please don’t post full articles as per the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Oldben said: Are there similarities between Derby and Sheffield wednesday? No. Curtains and Ted McMinn Football Genius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Steve How Hard?, angieram, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 8 others 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 FFS!! We are not getting a points deduction. Anyone who says we are is just a blind pessimist who is ignoring what many have said in the media, that at worst we’ll probably get a fine, and choosing to believe the Mail who have been wrong about everything to do with this so far. duck me can we get some form back and have a good season next year because the lunatic pessimists are running the asylum 24Charlie, The Scarlet Pimpernel, r_wilcockson and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Problem if they did deduct points at such a stage is that we would then appeal and how would that be over by start of next season etc etc. BramcoteRam84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Are we still in a transfer embargo for failing to submit the accounts? At the time it seemed irrelevant because of the window, but the summer is almost here now...not that we appear to have any money to sign anyone at present, but it would be nice to know we could do something if Mel found a spare £50 in an old suit jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) WOW https://www.skysports.co.uk/Derbyawarded-10-points-efl-blunder/dvbutdsi6754/ Edited April 29, 2021 by Mostyn6 mwram1973 and Ted McMinn Football Genius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Mostyn6 said: WOW https://www.skysports.co.uk/Derby-awarded-10-points-efl-blunder/dvbutdsi6754/ Only 10? That's not going to help our push for automatic promotion at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: WOW https://www.skysports.co.uk/Derbyawarded-10-points-efl-blunder/dvbutdsi6754/ I’ll give you a B- for effort but an F for execution ? Ghost of Clough, GboroRam, Rev and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Earnshaws Workrate Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 PLOT TWIST: EFL will opt instead to give us a 3 point bonus and ensure our safety this season. maxjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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