RoyMac5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: The manger gets sacked, does it then make sense to put the under-performing supervisor in the role of manager? The 'under-performing supervisor' has been following the managers convoluted plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bubbles said: Rosenior is ultimately more qualified and also more experienced from a coaching perspective. He'd be my choice if the only option if we are forced to appoint internally. He suggested that he wasn't ready. "LR answering the same question: "It's one thing wanting the job, it's another being the right person for it. I've got no doubt Wayne is going to be an outstanding manager. I'd like to say one day that I can be an outstanding manager myself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: It's a bit of a mess either way. Rosenior gets it and our captain who has publicly stated his desire for the job probably wouldn't be best pleased. That just throws up even more uncertainty and potential problems within the dressing room. Rooney gets the job over a more qualified Rosenior and there will almost certainly be an uproar within the media. We saw it with Lampard being chosen over Campbell and Ince who weren't even linked to us, so I can only imagine it this time around. Or alternatively a different manager takes over and now you have two individuals around the squad who both wanted the job but didn't get it. Hopefully they will take it on the chin and be professional about it but it's not a great situation for someone to walk into particularly as Rooney is still a player and captain. Honestly I can't help but shake the feeling that we should have really cleaned house with the coaching staff put someone like Wassell or Pat Lyons in temporary charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Firstly cocu has gone a change that needed making IMO anyway - now I think we have to wait for the next few games and see what happens and give Rooney a chance. Very exciting looking at the bookies making Rafa favourite for the job but if Rooney and rosenior can turn this around then that will be a major achievement and I would support them for the job. They offer some continuity and knowledge of the squad whilst hopefully eliminating the mistakes cocu repeatedly made. Looking forward to Saturday and seeing how they change things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I’m just not really enjoying being a Derby fan at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bubbles said: Obviously I can see Rooney getting the job, to which I will genuinely be so so so disappointed in the club. I can see it too. I think it will say a lot about the new owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: He suggested that he wasn't ready. "LR answering the same question: "It's one thing wanting the job, it's another being the right person for it. I've got no doubt Wayne is going to be an outstanding manager. I'd like to say one day that I can be an outstanding manager myself." Well I'm sorry but if Liam isn't ready for it why on earth would Rooney be. It's just going to cause so many amounts of problems. I genuinely would be able to struggle to back him in this situation that we're in. We need experience, we can't risk gambling when we're bottom of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bubbles said: Rosenior is ultimately more qualified and also more experienced from a coaching perspective. He'd be my choice if the only option if we are forced to appoint internally. Obviously I can see Rooney getting the job, to which I will genuinely be so so so disappointed in the club. Walker's the only one with real management experience. Walker - U18s manager Rosenior - U23s assistant (Brighton) Given - goalkeeping coach Rooney - England Soccer Aid manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Mafiabob said: I’m just not really enjoying being a Derby fan at the minute. Exactly how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, Bubbles said: Well I'm sorry but if Liam isn't ready for it why on earth would Rooney be. No you missed the point LR said that about himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, brady1993 said: Or alternatively a different manager takes over and now you have two individuals around the squad who both wanted the job but didn't get it. Hopefully they will take it on the chin and be professional about it but it's not a great situation for someone to walk into particularly as Rooney is still a player and captain. Honestly I can't help but shake the feeling that we should have really cleaned house with the coaching staff put someone like Wassell or Pat Lyons in temporary charge. I've never met the bloke but I get just get the impression Rosenior would be understanding and supportive if we went out and appointed an experienced manager to get us out of this mess. As for Rooney, I just don't think the player-coach experiment has worked out very well for us and it'd probably be best for both parties if he moved into management at a different club once his contract expires here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, Nuwtfly said: Exactly how I feel. Man up! ? We're off again. The games afoot. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Walker's the only one with real management experience. Walker - U18s manager Rosenior - U23s assistant (Brighton) Given - goalkeeping coach Rooney - England Soccer Aid manager Yep.. If our new owner has genuine decency and ambition, we'd appoint externally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 You never know, Mr Potato head might turn out to be good at this. The LR/WR double act might actually work if they've got the mutual respect and dynamics right. It doesn't have to be bad just because it doesn't seem great. I'm just going to put head under the pillow for the unbearable sports media for the ext couple of weeks until we announce the takeover and a proper manager (or I have to make my peace with "Potato Head's Barmy Army") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Cam the Ram said: I've never met the bloke but I get just get the impression Rosenior would be understanding and supportive if we went out and appointed an experienced manager to get us out of this mess. As for Rooney, I just don't think the player-coach experiment has worked out very well for us and it'd probably be best for both parties if he moved into management at a different club once his contract expires here. I agree with that apart from one aspect... I'd say "even before his contact expires". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: You never know, Mr Potato head might turn out to be good at this..... I didn't know Steve Bruce had been linked..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 My preference was for someone with solid experience such as allardyce but that ain’t happening for Saturday so I’m hoping Rooney can turn it round and he takes his opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: The 'under-performing supervisor' has been following the managers convoluted plan. Jason Knight doesnt seem to have struggled ?♂️ But, proof is in the pudding, let's see what result we get on Saturday and take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gaspode said: I didn't know Steve Bruce had been linked..... I always think of Steve Bruce in terms of "he's got a face like an arse" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Walker's the only one with real management experience. Walker - U18s manager Rosenior - U23s assistant (Brighton) Given - goalkeeping coach Rooney - England Soccer Aid manager Wassall should be in charge for me. But I’m not the one making decisions and whether he wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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