sage Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'm not denying that he could improve our team. If we could have him for a full season, I'm sure he would help us finish in the top 6. What I do doubt is him coming in being the difference between where we would finish and us sneaking in at 6th place. We'd need to be the top side for half of the season to sneak in at 6th on the final day. In terms of points per game, we'd need to be as good as Leeds were last season, when they won the league. Is Gilmour so good, that we suddenly become that side? Meanwhile, I am absolutely certain that we have the players already at the club who can help us avoid relegation. If we don't get any injuries. We are Bielik or Knight getting injured away from being in a relegation scrap all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, sage said: Wouldn't mind Gilmour on loan from Chelski I would have thought another defensive midfielder was the last thing we needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I would have thought another defensive midfielder was the last thing we needed He's not a CDM buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: He's not a CDM buddy. He is for chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, sage said: If we don't get any injuries. We are Bielik or Knight getting injured away from being in a relegation scrap all season. I thought we had moved past signing players incase of injuries ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I thought we had moved past signing players incase of injuries ? As we also need to rotate we need 4 players good enough for 3 positions. He also offers an additional passing ability and creativity which would mean getting more out of players like Jozwiak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Apparently Vydra on his way out of Burnley in January ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Sean said: Apparently Vydra on his way out of Burnley in January ? Hmm. If he could re-find his form I'd say yes, without a doubt. 3 goals in 40 games for Burnley is a long way from 'form'. He is the type of player who would benefit from late runs into the box for drag backs and lay-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Hmm. If he could re-find his form I'd say yes, without a doubt. 3 goals in 40 games for Burnley is a long way from 'form'. He is the type of player who would benefit from late runs into the box for drag backs and lay-offs. A tad harsh on him. He's only started 9 games for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Anag Ram said: Hmm. If he could re-find his form I'd say yes, without a doubt. 3 goals in 40 games for Burnley is a long way from 'form'. He is the type of player who would benefit from late runs into the box for drag backs and lay-offs. A silly stat that is much like the often used Bennett ones here - he has hardly been on the pitch in terms of minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Anag Ram said: Hmm. If he could re-find his form I'd say yes, without a doubt. 3 goals in 40 games for Burnley is a long way from 'form'. He is the type of player who would benefit from late runs into the box for drag backs and lay-offs. 6 goals and 4 assists in 50 game in all competitions. However, that was just 1894 minutes of actual football, the equivalent to just 21 games. 1 goal contribution every other game, or a goal every 3.5 games. Premier League only, he's scored 3 in 1290 minutes for Burnley. An average of 1 goal every 4.8 games of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 6 goals and 4 assists in 50 game in all competitions. However, that was just 1894 minutes of actual football, the equivalent to just 21 games. 1 goal contribution every other game, or a goal every 3.5 games. Premier League only, he's scored 3 in 1290 minutes for Burnley. An average of 1 goal every 4.8 games of football. Cheers Statto ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Sean said: Apparently Vydra on his way out of Burnley in January ? Loan or sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Rampage said: Loan or sell Deal or no deal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 13/12/2020 at 17:03, Rammed79 said: can't think of many names we could attract in our current position . stop it we are Derby and moving up fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 20/12/2020 at 17:32, DCFC27 said: would be amazing if we could get Phil Jones in will be very telling to see if WR has pulling power with ManU. Big Sam wants Jones. WR is worshipped as a footballer in Manchester but apparently Ferguson was so outraged by his agent's antics over the years that the bond between WR and ManU is not strong. Not like Lampard and Chelsea. We will see Pogba is loose apparently ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: will be very telling to see if WR has pulling power with ManU. Big Sam wants Jones. WR is worshipped as a footballer in Manchester but apparently Ferguson was so outraged by his agent's antics over the years that the bond between WR and ManU is not strong. Not like Lampard and Chelsea. We will see Pogba is loose apparently ? I always feel it’s down to the player in scenarios like this. Jones might feel he wants to prove himself at the highest level still. On the flip side there are some players and managers that want to test themselves in the championship as it has a reputation around Europe for being the most difficult league in the world. I’d say if Big Sam comes in for him he’s going there. Big Sam tends to make very smart signings and identifies them early to the board as priority’s to keeping them up. Burnley doesn’t sound a great prospect as Sean Dyche has a habit of signing good players and not playing them, they already have a really good partnership there so he’d be cover. Let’s hope WBA aren’t interested and we might have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, DCFC27 said: I always feel it’s down to the player in scenarios like this. Jones might feel he wants to prove himself at the highest level still. On the flip side there are some players and managers that want to test themselves in the championship as it has a reputation around Europe for being the most difficult league in the world. I’d say if Big Sam comes in for him he’s going there. Big Sam tends to make very smart signings and identifies them early to the board as priority’s to keeping them up. Burnley doesn’t sound a great prospect as Sean Dyche has a habit of signing good players and not playing them, they already have a really good partnership there so he’d be cover. Let’s hope WBA aren’t interested and we might have a chance. agree with much of what you say. But if a Big Sam had wanted Mason Mount, he would still have come to Pride Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF Ram Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Wasn't Big Sam manager at Blackburn when Jones was breaking through there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4derby Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Few have said it already. Key for this window is to make sure the squad has enough to survive comfortably without spending lots on players that are not going to be more than 1-2 year players for us. We need a goalscorer and a centre back. I would be happy with us signing loan players, as long as they are of a certain quality and they don't cost a lot financially. It is important, where possible, for us to keep costs down at the minute to keep us financially trending upwards. I am still unsure (like everyone) as to how we are going to benefit financially from the supposed takeover when we still have FFP issues hanging over us. Spending large amounts this window, especially on loans, might not be the most sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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