Marriot Ram99 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 We are ducking bank, 1 win all season we will be having Christmas Dinner with 1 ducking win at this rate, we are an embarrassment. Its not just the Coaches who can be blamed the players need to take a real look at themselves. You can say the same baalocks every week but its getting very old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Andicis said: I'm lost for words that's your take away from this game. If this had been a manager you didn't like you'd slate them for a game like this as I said at half time, but because you like Rooney you're willing to overlook everything. Genuinely incredible. If you can't see the difference in that game and every other game this season then that is genuinely incredible! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Think some reactions are OTT. The results of that game (the score, the lack of chances etc) make it seem exactly the same as under Cocu You get a positional map or heat map or some stats on ball in the final third and I bet it looks improved The overlaps, the passing between lines, the width. All so much better. The chances may have come with some acceptable crossing. That was some of the worst delivery from wide areas I've ever seen. True garbage. Totally poo. Buchanan, Lawrence and Knight should be embarrassed by some of that "delivery". Some had all the time in the world and couldn't hit a ball in the general direction of the penalty spot/6 yard box at any sort of height a player could attack. Utterly poo. But the urgency, the aggression of the Clarke and Wisdom was much improved In fact Wisdom put a pass between CB and LB that is probably the best pass we've done in about 10 months. It wasn't insta-fix. It wasn't woeful though was it? Give it some context and it was a gradual improvement which is acceptable game by game. Get rid of this idea that the team is top 6 material suffering from poor management. Theyre not. They barely were when Keogh, Mount and Co were here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramfan1958 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Ramfan1958 said: The defence was so out of position for there go school boys would do better he's 18 yards out unmarked . Proper old school manager required with urgency. Should be goal not go long day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Wow! I thought that was a good, hard fought game. Our lack of a good striker to lead the line showed. Hector-I should have had a penno as should Clarke, thems the breaks! Yep, proper number 9 and we'd be happier right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Alpha said: The results of that game (the score, the lack of chances etc) make it seem exactly the same as under Cocu You get a positional map or heat map or some stats on ball in the final third and I bet it looks improved The overlaps, the passing between lines, the width. All so much better. Did you genuinely think we'd score though Alpha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 How close were we to scoring to day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andicis said: I'm lost for words that's your take away from this game. If this had been a manager you didn't like you'd slate them for a game like this as I said at half time, but because you like Rooney you're willing to overlook everything. Genuinely incredible. I think he’s pulling your strings mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andicis said: I'm lost for words that's your take away from this game. If this had been a manager you didn't like you'd slate them for a game like this as I said at half time, but because you like Rooney you're willing to overlook everything. Genuinely incredible. Bet your pram is well empty of toys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andicis said: A few shots on target? Real desire to score a goal? That is the BIG change you refer to ? If you think they didn't have the desire to score a goal, then I can start to understand where the terminology bed wetting comes from. Im sure you have played enough football in your time to know it's not as easy as getting a few shots on target or having the desire, other than that what would you therefore change to make that happen ? Put yourself in the new owners shoes, what would the first thing you'd do ? Would it be a new manager I take it, which would be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Mafiabob said: I think he’s pulling your strings mate ? I'd hope so, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 3 penalty shouts turned down in 1 game! Something like 10 for the season and all turned down If any of those 3 shouts had been given against us, you’d be absolutely funkin fuming!!! No of them were fouls, just desperate shouts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 It was same old same old in final 3rd. Let’s be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Bet your pram is well empty of toys... Articulate, well thought out rebuttal. Great post. Just now, BIllyD said: That is the BIG change you refer to ? If you think they didn't have the desire to score a goal, then I can start to understand where the terminology bed wetting comes from. Im sure you have played enough football in your time to know it's not as easy as getting a few shots on target or having the desire, other than that what would you therefore change to make that happen ? Put yourself in the new owners shoes, what would the first thing you'd do ? Would it be a new manager I take it, which would be ? New manager. A full new coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: I keep seeing the luck word mentioned. It is incompetence which prevents us from scoring and in leaving the opponents three against one in the box. Fair enough, no arguing that getting the ball in the goal was the problem, so you think the players are to blame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinder Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Wow! I thought that was a good, hard fought game. Our lack of a good striker to lead the line showed. Hector-I should have had a penno as should Clarke, thems the breaks! Roy, I always try to see the positive but that was more of the same. Possession without really threatening until the oppo inevitably score. No different to the rest of this season. We need a new man in with new ideas, the sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 We've got to build the team around JHI or Stretton up front, there's no other way. Waghorn has proved he can't do the no 9 role. I know it's adding another kid, which comes with its own risk, but it's the definition of insanity to stay as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, Marriott Ram99 said: Can't expect fluid football after one game Cocu apologists, with how badly we have been playing and the lack of confidence the players have it will take a couple of games for significant change. New manager bounce ,,, players in training looking massively lifted?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinnitdough Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 We need to play the forwards. When is management going to realize that you NEED people who have shaped their careers on being inside the opponents box? Ingram, Ibe, Richards, they need time and support, and they might be lacking fitness, but we have no other option. We had a decent game today, but the final third was, as always, lacking. So give the actual forwards a chance, Waghorn is nowhere near handling the job on his own. He is great off the ball. He gets the defense out of position, but he is no goal thief, which is what we need. Cocu the Nottingham Forest supporter has made irrepairable damage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Andicis said: New manager. A full new coaching staff. Which they have, I'm guessing not for you though, so who would it be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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