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When was the last time we were this low in the table?


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Let's look at the teams on 6 points or less after 10 games in this division and see how they ended up. 

04/05 - Rotherham - 24th with 29 points
07/08 - Sheff Wed - 16th with 55 points
08/09 - Notts Forest - 19th with 53 points
09/10 - Crystal Palace - 21st with 49 points
09/10 - Plymouth - 23rd with 41 points
09/10 - Ipswich - 15th with 56 points
10/11 - Bristol City - 15th with 60 points
11/12 - Bristol City - 20th with 49 points
11/12 - Portsmouth - 22nd with 40 points
12/13 - Peterborough - 22nd with 54 points
13/14 - Bolton - 14th with 59 points
13/14 - Sheff Wed - 16th with 53 points
13/14 - Barnsley - 23rd with 39 points
13/14 - Yeovil - 24th with 37 points
14/15 - Bolton - 18th with 51 points
14/15 - Blackpool - 24th with 26 points
16/17 - Rotherham - 24th with 23 points
17/18 - Sunderland - 24th with 37 points
17/18 - Bolton - 21st with 43 points 
18/19 - Ipswich - 24th with 31 points
18/19 - Millwall - 21st with 44 points
18/19 - Preston - 14th with 61 points
18/19 - Birmingham - 17th with 52 points
19/20 - Barnsley - 21st with 49 points
19/20 - Huddersfield - 18th with 51 points
19/20 - Stoke - 15th with 56 points
19/20 - Wigan - 23rd with 47 points
20/21 - Derby - ?
20/21 - Sheff Wed - ?

Interestingly, slightly worrying, none of these teams finished in the top half. On the other side, it shows that less than half the teams that were on this mark actually got relegated. Nevertheless, it shows that historically 90% of the teams ended up in a relegation battle so we should prepare for one. 

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6 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Crikey - just a couple?? Dave Watson, Kenny Burns, Archies Swansong, Roy Mac still going, Steve powell, John Robertson wheezing down the wing.........the average age must have been nearing 40! ?

But the one thing I will say about that team they gave more effort, entertainment and at least scored goals, it wasn't great but a lot better than the rubbish and negative football of Cocu. 

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8 hours ago, Ambitious said:

Let's look at the teams on 6 points or less after 10 games in this division and see how they ended up. 

04/05 - Rotherham - 24th with 29 points
07/08 - Sheff Wed - 16th with 55 points
08/09 - Notts Forest - 19th with 53 points
09/10 - Crystal Palace - 21st with 49 points
09/10 - Plymouth - 23rd with 41 points
09/10 - Ipswich - 15th with 56 points
10/11 - Bristol City - 15th with 60 points
11/12 - Bristol City - 20th with 49 points
11/12 - Portsmouth - 22nd with 40 points
12/13 - Peterborough - 22nd with 54 points
13/14 - Bolton - 14th with 59 points
13/14 - Sheff Wed - 16th with 53 points
13/14 - Barnsley - 23rd with 39 points
13/14 - Yeovil - 24th with 37 points
14/15 - Bolton - 18th with 51 points
14/15 - Blackpool - 24th with 26 points
16/17 - Rotherham - 24th with 23 points
17/18 - Sunderland - 24th with 37 points
17/18 - Bolton - 21st with 43 points 
18/19 - Ipswich - 24th with 31 points
18/19 - Millwall - 21st with 44 points
18/19 - Preston - 14th with 61 points
18/19 - Birmingham - 17th with 52 points
19/20 - Barnsley - 21st with 49 points
19/20 - Huddersfield - 18th with 51 points
19/20 - Stoke - 15th with 56 points
19/20 - Wigan - 23rd with 47 points
20/21 - Derby - ?
20/21 - Sheff Wed - ?

Interestingly, slightly worrying, none of these teams finished in the top half. On the other side, it shows that less than half the teams that were on this mark actually got relegated. Nevertheless, it shows that historically 90% of the teams ended up in a relegation battle so we should prepare for one. 

So it's a coin toss that we will get relegated then on that information. 

As another poster has alluded to would be very interested to learn what % of the teams who did avoid relegation did so with the same manager at the start of the campaign.

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9 hours ago, Ambitious said:

Let's look at the teams on 6 points or less after 10 games in this division and see how they ended up...

Interestingly, slightly worrying, none of these teams finished in the top half. On the other side, it shows that less than half the teams that were on this mark actually got relegated. Nevertheless, it shows that historically 90% of the teams ended up in a relegation battle so we should prepare for one. 

That makes grim reading.

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On 04/11/2020 at 23:36, Ambitious said:

Let's look at the teams on 6 points or less after 10 games in this division and see how they ended up. 

04/05 - Rotherham - 24th with 29 points
07/08 - Sheff Wed - 16th with 55 points
08/09 - Notts Forest - 19th with 53 points
09/10 - Crystal Palace - 21st with 49 points
09/10 - Plymouth - 23rd with 41 points
09/10 - Ipswich - 15th with 56 points
10/11 - Bristol City - 15th with 60 points
11/12 - Bristol City - 20th with 49 points
11/12 - Portsmouth - 22nd with 40 points
12/13 - Peterborough - 22nd with 54 points
13/14 - Bolton - 14th with 59 points
13/14 - Sheff Wed - 16th with 53 points
13/14 - Barnsley - 23rd with 39 points
13/14 - Yeovil - 24th with 37 points
14/15 - Bolton - 18th with 51 points
14/15 - Blackpool - 24th with 26 points
16/17 - Rotherham - 24th with 23 points
17/18 - Sunderland - 24th with 37 points
17/18 - Bolton - 21st with 43 points 
18/19 - Ipswich - 24th with 31 points
18/19 - Millwall - 21st with 44 points
18/19 - Preston - 14th with 61 points
18/19 - Birmingham - 17th with 52 points
19/20 - Barnsley - 21st with 49 points
19/20 - Huddersfield - 18th with 51 points
19/20 - Stoke - 15th with 56 points
19/20 - Wigan - 23rd with 47 points
20/21 - Derby - ?
20/21 - Sheff Wed - ?

Interestingly, slightly worrying, none of these teams finished in the top half. On the other side, it shows that less than half the teams that were on this mark actually got relegated. Nevertheless, it shows that historically 90% of the teams ended up in a relegation battle so we should prepare for one. 

That's good! If we finish 13th, we'll be record breakers!

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Wigan looked like they had turned it around up to 13th & a mad run of one defeat in 14 then they were deducted points. 

We can get out of it but to finish top half or higher we'd need a run where we put together about 8 win & 2 draws in ten games. Which doesn't look like happening based on previous games

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