Curtains Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chester40 said: I'm thinking there was nothing new (not news) in that article at all, well written or not. That's why @Curtainsis sort of right..its just a rehash of everything we already know ahead of the Derby. I am right they are just stirring up trouble for DCFC . It’s true I did have a go at the Guardian but to be honest it could of been in any newspaper and I still think it would be out of order. I am not an apologist for Mel Morris but I don’t think he deserves this all the time . What is the news media’s agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: Agree. If that article had been published in the Mail, the response on here would have been very different. If it was the mail the response would be even worse. Everyone knows they hate us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Will happen by page 500 ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: The only evidence available to the public suggests it's not club debt. The Gabay debt is on the stadium company only but I recall seeing somewhere that MM guaranteed it personally. don’t even know if it is outstanding - there are conflicting reports. As for the MSD debt, the companies house filings show it’s secured on assets of the club and the associated companies. So it’s effectively guaranteed by the club Could the £40m lease number have something to do with its capitalised value ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Curtains said: I am right they are just stirring up trouble for DCFC . It’s true I did have a go at the Guardian but to be honest it could of been in any newspaper and I still think it would be out of order. I am not an apologist for Mel Morris but I don’t think he deserves this all the time . What is the news media’s agenda A liitle old football club called Derby County have since being formed upset the apple cart, George Jobey tipped it over, Sam Longson when sanctioning payments to McKay kicked the horse, MM and co doing what Paul Danials couldn't and making hay, We've been a little different since 1888, Millwall scream "people hate us we don't care" just look at the media with us, Easy targets feed journalists, Simple folk believe what they print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Ah thank Fock. Finally another accountancy thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 18 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Indeed not but on the other hand, there's not an awful lot of good light to be had, is there? Nothing in the piece is inaccurate is it? We are struggling in the league, skint, the takeover didn't happen, we failed to go up through the playoffs twice in the last few seasons, we were cleared of wrong-doing in the sale of the ground... any of this actually wrong? If the article is painting us in a bad light, it's not out of malice, it's out of accurately stating what has happened to the club recently. You're correct, of course, Andy but equally we have won 6/8, were bottom of the league and are now clear of the bottom three, might be skint (we don't actually know, though we do know that we're still relying on one person's generosity) but then the vast majority of other clubs in the league are as skint as we are (and may be more skint), we don't know that the takeover isn't happening/won't happen in the future or that another one won't, most other clubs haven't got to the play offs as often as we have (including the lot down the road) because they haven't been as successful as us......... any of this actually wrong? Robert Fisk once said to Osama bin Laden (random link I know) that journalism is about telling the truth. What I dislike about modern day journalism, in sport and life in general (including politics), is that there's no telling of the whole truth, no balance. I understand why that is - it's all about having your voice heard in a very crowded market, about click throughs and advertising revenue because there's no money in newspapers including The Guardian - and the only way that you get that is to exaggerate one side of the argument, to make people react. There's no reaction from saying, on the eve of a big match, that in troubled times we're doing well to still be going off the pitch and are now competing on the pitch. In short, it's spin. And it's why many, I suspect, no longer gain news from newspapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Summary on bbc football site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 "BBC Sport has been told that the way the agreement is set up means neither party can walk away." What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, AutoWindscreens said: "BBC Sport has been told that the way the agreement is set up means neither party can walk away." What? Seems a good summary and as you say the no walk away clause looks odd, maybe there's a time limit or some other break clause, or I suppose mutual agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, AutoWindscreens said: "BBC Sport has been told that the way the agreement is set up means neither party can walk away." What? We’ve heard this from MM himself. Seems the Lawyers forgot to put the long stop date in the agreement that was signed in Oct/Nov. As a result MM has basically given the Sheikh an option. Gaaawd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: We’ve heard this from MM himself. Seems the Lawyers forgot to put the long stop date in the agreement that was signed in Oct/Nov. As a result MM has basically given the Sheikh an option. Gaaawd Where the bloody hell is this bloke . Never heard a peep from the other end of this deal. If theres ever another fan forum expect Quint to turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 3 hours ago, derby8 said: Summary on bbc football site. BBC.....full of Florist fans me thinks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, AutoWindscreens said: "BBC Sport has been told that the way the agreement is set up means neither party can walk away." What? It also states: "No official reason has been given for the delay - or whether there is a cut-off date for the deal to go through." I read this as there could well be, but the Beed couldn't find out. Not all doom and gloom..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Spanish bloke preparing rival bid to the Sheikh according to Daily Mail. Erik Alonso. Another dodgy character by the looks of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 The Mail you say? I wouldn’t wipe Curtains backside with it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Apologies if this has been suggested previously - after 500 pages, I imagine everything has already been mentioned at least once - but I wonder if one of the delays is related to the shirt sponsor, 32Red, i.e, a gambling company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Will Hughes Hair said: The Mail you say? I wouldn’t wipe Curtains backside with it ? I hope your curtains are BROWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Abu Derby said: Spanish bloke preparing rival bid to the Sheikh according to Daily Mail. Erik Alonso. Another dodgy character by the looks of things. Got link can’t find it although I too would wipe my arse with the daily Mail paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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