plymouthram Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 19/02/2021 at 15:11, CornwallRam said: I have no idea if this is of any relevance, but 2 days ago BZI registered at Companies House https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13208275 This Mr Shafqat Ali Said Akram was one of two people that set up a company called "J AND RAYS LTD" back on the 16th Dec 2016 they then changed the name to SKYNET GROUP OF COMPANIES LTD on the 20th Dec 2020. Their registered office address was 188 Uppingham Road, Leicester. It seems Mr Akram has started or registered this Bin Zahed company. There is something a little fishy going on. I can only think that the Sheikh is getting contacts to open other companies, probably hoping for investments to raise enough money to make a purchase. I think this Sheikh, does have some money but wants capital poured in from other people so he does not squander all his cash if things go tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Champagne ideas beer money europia and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 19/02/2021 at 15:16, roboto said: This guy is appointed as director https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/RcQbWtSALUwMUPlnZ5bQ6kNKHGg/appointments Googling his name urned up little except that he's a director os another company registered in Leicestershire salled SKYNET (hopefully not that one from the future with all the killer robots) https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/10529073-skynet-group-of-companies-ltd And also some human trafficking documents that I haven't read through but the name and residency seem to link up... https://docplayer.net/102295886-Preface-human-smuggling-is-a-complex-social-phenomenon-having-multiple-push-pull-factors-the-situation-is-exacerbated-by-porous.html For our deal they had Derventio and a Gibraltar holding company ready and waiting. I guess it’s possible that the deal has changed, they are putting a consortium together and they have established this new company because they need a different structure for the consortium. But doesn’t seem likely at this late stage. So this is probably for some other U.K. investment. Just interested @Cornwall ram- how did you pick this up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, plymouthram said: This Mr Shafqat Ali Said Akram was one of two people that set up a company called "J AND RAYS LTD" back on the 16th Dec 2016 they then changed the name to SKYNET GROUP OF COMPANIES LTD on the 20th Dec 2020. Their registered office address was 188 Uppingham Road, Leicester. It seems Mr Akram has started or registered this Bin Zahed company. There is something a little fishy going on. I can only think that the Sheikh is getting contacts to open other companies, probably hoping for investments to raise enough money to make a purchase. I think this Sheikh, does have some money but wants capital poured in from other people so he does not squander all his cash if things go tits up. Isn’t it Bin Zayed International who are involved in DCFC, not Bin Zayed Investments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: There are no rules which stop an owner from paying off debt. Good news kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, tinman said: Isn’t it Bin Zayed International who are involved in DCFC, not Bin Zayed Investments? The Akram guy is shown as the shareholder. And there is no indication that BZG in UAE is a controller. But still likely to be connected with BZG (Akram is from UAE according to the filing). But whether it’s anything to do with our deal is another question completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 You or I could have incorporporated under the name Bin Zayed Investments Ltd if Mr Akram hadn't got there first. This incorporation alone means diddly squat. kevinhectoring and i-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Mostyn6 and England Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Derby are referred to in this Guardian article this morning, regarding the use of US loans: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/22/sign-of-the-times-how-english-clubs-are-turning-to-high-interest-us-loans It also mentions the never ending takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Olton Ram said: Derby are referred to in this Guardian article this morning, regarding the use of US loans: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/22/sign-of-the-times-how-english-clubs-are-turning-to-high-interest-us-loans It also mentions the never ending takeover One reason British Banks do not want to make these loans is they fear the wrath of fans if they enforce or call in administrators. And that makes it easier for the US niche lenders to charge high rates. perfect opportunity for crowdfunding !! derby8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Well I those there's plenty of 'crowds' at a loose end at the moment? kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 It's like peeling back the layers of an onion. I think thanks to the digging by everyone on this thread we've confirmed it's a complete buggers muddle and smacks of champagne ideas, beer money to quote @Tyler Durden - perfect analogy here IMO. Sooner we're rid of what really looks like sheisters the better. You only need to look at how they've tried this with other clubs, and failed. It's over 3 months since this was supposedly just about sorted. Train crash feels like an understatement ? Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 hours ago, BucksRam said: It's like peeling back the layers of an onion. I think thanks to the digging by everyone on this thread we've confirmed it's a complete buggers muddle and smacks of champagne ideas, beer money to quote @Tyler Durden - perfect analogy here IMO. Sooner we're rid of what really looks like sheisters the better. You only need to look at how they've tried this with other clubs, and failed. It's over 3 months since this was supposedly just about sorted. Train crash feels like an understatement ? I just don't get it. This Sheikh seems to looking for a football club to buy then farts about until the selling club tells him to do one. What is he getting out of it. I think this is the last chance saloon for this cowboy, because every other football club in UK, once he comes sniffing will tell him to piss off. P.S. Sorry for the language, but I hate tyre kickers aswell when you are selling a car. BucksRam and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, plymouthram said: I just don't get it. This Sheikh seems to looking for a football club to buy then farts about until the selling club tells him to do one. What is he getting out of it. I think this is the last chance saloon for this cowboy, because every other football club in UK, once he comes sniffing will tell him to piss off. P.S. Sorry for the language, but I hate tyre kickers aswell when you are selling a car. He'll just be able to blame covid problems and go carpet-bagging again somewhere else - there'll be lots of desperate clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: He'll just be able to blame covid problems and go carpet-bagging again somewhere else - there'll be lots of desperate clubs. I don't think a lot of other clubs would have the time to let it roll on. There will be lots of clubs looking for financial input, but unlike Derby who have been selling some academy talent to keep themselves afloat. Can not see any club, however desperate would take the risk of letting drag on. It will be; yes you buy and the deal will have to be done within a month of EFL clearance or bugger off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Olton Ram said: Derby are referred to in this Guardian article this morning, regarding the use of US loans: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/22/sign-of-the-times-how-english-clubs-are-turning-to-high-interest-us-loans It also mentions the never ending takeover The takeover is in pantomime territory. More of a concern is how the club will be able to pay off those crippling debts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, europia said: The takeover is in pantomime territory. More of a concern is how the club will be able to pay off those crippling debts. Based on the recent Daily Mail article, MM will sell on terms that ensure ongoing liquidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, europia said: The takeover is in pantomime territory. More of a concern is how the club will be able to pay off those crippling debts. Oh no it’s not. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta, europia, Rammy03 and 6 others 1 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Will Hughes Hair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Hope we can sort something soon one way or the other , dont think Wayne will stand to be messed about for too long , he needs to know so he can plan for next season whatever league we are in , id hate for him to walk away because of this fiasco LeedsCityRam, archram, Curtains and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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