Anag Ram 7,086 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Will our game tomorrow go ahead if the players have still not been paid? Carl Sagan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
James Pond 477 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Will our game tomorrow go ahead if the players have still not been paid? If all players refuse to play then the EFL would be forced to postpone the game, The EFL could force DCFC to play the team that played Chrorley tho this will be time restricted now, Macclesfield had games postponed and were docked points for failing to forefill a fixture after players refused to play through non payment of wages. So down to players at the end. Link to post Share on other sites
StrawHillRam 930 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 52 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Will our game tomorrow go ahead if the players have still not been paid? Have they threatened not to play? Not heard that LauraH 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jono 9,171 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 15 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: Have they threatened not to play? Not heard that It’s such a tricky situation .. I can see any modest business saying there’s a glitch guys ... we need a few days to do some fiscal messing but in x days we will pay you. The reality of life is that these things happen, but from the knowledge we have it seems that the players have now been waiting 3 weeks .. that is seriously iffy with next months pay due in a week. Once 30 days has passed the ground is very shakey .. Bluntly Mel needs to pay them or declare us as a failed / failing business with all that implies. This is grim Derby4Me, Carl Sagan, Ramarena and 4 others 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Durden 2,885 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, jono said: Bluntly Mel needs to pay them or declare us as a failed / failing business with all that implies. This is grim Doesn't not paying your staff for a number of weeks automatically imply that your business is failing, wouldn't have thought you needed a formal announcement for folks to appreciate that Link to post Share on other sites
The Scarlet Pimpernel 5,838 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Doesn't not paying your staff for a number of weeks automatically imply that your business is failing, wouldn't have thought you needed a formal announcement for folks to appreciate that Not if the reason is that a legally binding agreement means someone else should have paid. You could argue the new crowd are failing in that scenario. jono, Ramslaar and 86 Hair Islands 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Durden 2,885 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Not if the reason is that a legally binding agreement means someone else should have paid. You could argue the new crowd are failing in that scenario. Not at all. Who brought these set of jokers to our door in the first place. europia 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Scarlet Pimpernel 5,838 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Not at all. Who brought these set of jokers to our door in the first place. Not the point you were arguing though. jono and 86 Hair Islands 2 Link to post Share on other sites
RadioactiveWaste 12,357 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 ARE WE NEARLY RICH YET?! ARE WE NEARLY RICH YET!? ARE WE NEARLY RICH YET!? Link to post Share on other sites
RoyMac5 13,024 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 21 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: ARE WE NEARLY RICH YET?! ARE WE NEARLY RICH YET!? ARE WE NEARLY RICH YET!? "Yes of course we nearly are" said the Sheik RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Steve How Hard? 10,477 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Pearl Ram 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jono 9,171 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 43 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Doesn't not paying your staff for a number of weeks automatically imply that your business is failing, wouldn't have thought you needed a formal announcement for folks to appreciate that It only does if you use a very simplistic form of argument and conclusion. It does mean you have a critical serious unresolved problem that needs addressing very quickly before the edifice crumbles and the initial simplistic conclusion is proven. This was my point .. there are hiccups, problems, issues in the nature of this business. The salaries of players are wildly out of kilter with the income received by this and similar clubs. While businesses are seeking a conclusion or solution to a change of ownership then these salaries will be an overwhelming part of that equation.. to put it on the same level as the warehouseman who didn’t get paid just isn’t the same thing. If for example senior players were on the same sort of level as directors in medium sized companies .. let’s say 100 K a year plus bonuses then the tish show that is the championship would smell a lot sweeter... but they are not ., they are earning between 5 and 10 times that. It is distorted so “failing” while true in a sense doesn’t really reflect the reality of this mad league and it finances. 86 Hair Islands 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sparkle 6,273 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It was noticeable the good old Bristol city lost £10 million last season despite a trading profit on transfers of £25 million 😧 and that’s with income up until mid March in terms of ourselves who knows? - but cash available is a nightmare for all clubs - it’s vaccine of bust for the EFL next season whilst a few will go this season potentially Link to post Share on other sites
Rammeister 1,487 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Doesn't not paying your staff for a number of weeks automatically imply that your business is failing, wouldn't have thought you needed a formal announcement for folks to appreciate that Unfortunately it is also a breach of contract. Players could claim constructive dismissal if so minded. Link to post Share on other sites
Mucker1884 9,336 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 30 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: With a wrist action like that, I reckon it's more than the plug that he's planning on pulling! Is this that new Leeds badge, personified? Steve How Hard? and Dimmu 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Abu Derby 1,171 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The delay may be because Mel thinks that this deal could turn out to be very good for Derby County and will be well worth the wait. Either that or he doesn’t care any more. ziggyram59 and RoyMac5 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Inverurie Ram 6,527 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 21 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Fat fingers. I was too enthusiastic in my vision of how a dcfcfans takeover would play out. I was putting it down to lack of beer. Get yourself to the fridge and pour yourself another one son! I've just had a 6dn Hopocrisy, Burnside Brown Ale, Lost & Found Brut IPA and ready for several more! LeedsCityRam 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ram1964 1,792 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 This take over involves lot of noughts in it unfortunately no other digits appear to be forth coming 😃 jono, RoyMac5 and LeedsCityRam 3 Link to post Share on other sites
europia 1,845 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, Rammeister said: Unfortunately it is also a breach of contract. Players could claim constructive dismissal if so minded. Yes. Any employee, needs to decide what their red line is, based upon their own personal circumstances. For instance, if you are on a weekly wage and your kids aren't getting fed if you don't get paid for your previous weeks work, then that is your red line. That's when you start looking for another job. A promise of getting paid 'at some point in the future' isn't a currency at any supermarket I know of. So for DCFC players, they should already be considering how much pay they are willing to write off. In the majority of cases, when a business is hitting the skids, the chances of being reimbursed in full for unpaid income is pretty slim. Link to post Share on other sites
ollycutts1982 1,906 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, ram1964 said: This take over involves lot of noughts in it unfortunately no other digits appear to be forth coming 😃 I will happily send our new perspective owner a digit if he continues to muck us about. 🖕 Link to post Share on other sites
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