BIllyD Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: We did. He's a Sheikh and they own oil wells so he must be rich - sorted. ? Didnt oil turn into a negative entity last year...I may have dreamt that though but could be the problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, BIllyD said: How can we not do due diligence on a potential buyer...beggars believe if true. Important bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: No way is our wage bill over 70 million a month. Think uts more 3 million a month wages £7m a month is £84m over a year the last time I checked ? In 17/18, player wages (excluding social security and pensions) were just over £35m (less than £3m pm). Total group employee costs (wages, social security, pensions, etc) came to just under £47m (just under £4m pm). Given our transfers since that season, I'll be surprised if costs have gone up. In: Waghorn, Marriott, Jozefzoon, Holmes, Malone, Evans, Bielik, Shinnie, Rooney, Jozwiak, Ibe, Marshall, Byrne, Kazim, Clarke (loan) Out: Vydra, Weimann, Shackell, Jerome, Bent, Baird, Ledley, Nugent, Butterfield, Blackman, Pearce, Johnson, Bryson, Thorne, Keogh, Olsson, Martin, Anya, Huddlestone I would hope by now player wages are below £24m and total costs getting close (or below) £30m per season (£2m and £2.5m pm respectively) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurich Ram Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 19 hours ago, Sith Happens said: He bought the club before the conviction i think. Just wanted an excuse to type convicted rapist Owen Oyston ……... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: total costs getting close (or below) £30m per season (£2m and £2.5m pw respectively) I hope you mean per month otherwise we are in a bigger hole than anyone imagined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, BIllyD said: How can we not do due diligence on a potential buyer...beggars believe if true. I find it incredible that people are so quick to believe what the Daily Mail says and just assume that business executives like Mel Morris & Stephen Pearce wouldn't carry out due diligence on the prospective buyer of their multi-million pound business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zurich Ram said: Just wanted an excuse to type convicted rapist Owen Oyston ……... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: £7m a month is £84m over a year the last time I checked ? In 17/18, player wages (excluding social security and pensions) were just over £35m (less than £3m pm). Total group employee costs (wages, social security, pensions, etc) came to just under £47m (just under £4m pm). Given our transfers since that season, I'll be surprised if costs have gone up. In: Waghorn, Marriott, Jozefzoon, Holmes, Malone, Evans, Bielik, Shinnie, Rooney, Jozwiak, Ibe, Marshall, Byrne, Kazim, Clarke (loan) Out: Vydra, Weimann, Shackell, Jerome, Bent, Baird, Ledley, Nugent, Butterfield, Blackman, Pearce, Johnson, Bryson, Thorne, Keogh, Olsson, Martin, Anya, Huddlestone I would hope by now player wages are below £24m and total costs getting close (or below) £30m per season (£2m and £2.5m pw respectively) 2.5m pw cheesus I hope you meant pm (per month). Have we signed 11 ravanellis i don't know about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: I hope you mean per month otherwise we are in a bigger hole than anyone imagined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Carnero said: I find it incredible that people are so quick to believe what the Daily Mail says and just assume that business executives like Mel Morris & Stephen Pearce wouldn't carry out due diligence on the prospective buyer of their multi-million pound business. It wasn't from the Daily Mail...it was from the link to the pod cast on page 413, An interview with Salam Hafez...Derby Fan and middle east Journalist, he said the Financial times and the Athletic both new he wasn't the person SOME PEOPLE thought he was, And surprised that DCFC who he thinks employs someone to read national news papers and social media that they didn't pick up on what some were saying in print. As an aside, I would find it also hard to believe the above, But given what we've been told not told so far...smoke and fire come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, BIllyD said: How can we not do due diligence on a potential buyer...beggars believe if true. Can't say I believe this, there's just more guessing going on under the ITK foreign banner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Carnero said: I find it incredible that people are so quick to believe what the Daily Mail says and just assume that business executives like Mel Morris & Stephen Pearce wouldn't carry out due diligence on the prospective buyer of their multi-million pound business. Whilst I understand what you are saying, hence the caveat with if true. However, given we are mid January, the takeover is even to the uneducated looking more unlikely as each day passes, something is holding this up. The assumption (not sure where there came from) is that the funds were transferred, now this doesn't appear to be correct any more, the club are refusing to give any further updates and it could be that one or more of the investors have pulled out. Given funds were not in place for wages, then I'd also assume that this hold up has come as a bit of a surprise to the club. Now we come to the DD, if we are to believe the noise that came out the club, SR was allowed to sign off certain things that went unnoticed by Mel and the FD. In addition, AP said he wasn't involved in certain aspects of the takeover, Mel was dealing with this. Finally, this is someone, who has failed with 2 takeovers prior to this and we are looking down the barrel of a THIRD. So whilst definitely not the most reliable source, it's also not the most unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Can't say I believe this, there's just more guessing going on under the ITK foreign banner! In all honesty neither do I. But then as above post, nothing would surprise me with this club at the moment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, James Pond said: It wasn't from the Daily Mail...it was from the link to the pod cast on page 413, An interview with Salam Hafez...Derby Fan and middle east Journalist, he said the Financial times and the Athletic both new he wasn't the person SOME PEOPLE thought he was, And surprised that DCFC who he thinks employs someone to read national news papers and social media that they didn't pick up on what some were saying in print. As an aside, I would find it also hard to believe the above, But given what we've been told not told so far...smoke and fire come to mind. Except that the highlighted bit originates from the Daily Mail which the presenter was referring to when asking Salam for his thoughts. We amateurs all knew that Khaled was only a distant cousin of Mansoor (despite what the media were saying!) so if WE knew then it's inconceivable that MM & Pearce wouldn't know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carnero said: Except that the highlighted bit originates from the Daily Mail which the presenter was referring to when asking Salam for his thoughts. We amateurs all knew that Khaled was only a distant cousin of Mansoor (despite what the media were saying!) so if WE knew then it's inconceivable that MM & Pearce wouldn't know! I don't read the Mail so i'll take you at your word that this originated from the Mail. The Newcastle fan around the start of this thread told us all he wasn't what some were saying...even printing his photo, Some poo pood him some believed him on here, I'll hazard a guess that the Geordie is right. Salam Hafez also said you'd have to be a specialist in the acestory field to understand the where with all concerning this family, So if MM and SP looked into all this then they knew who they were dealing with, If they didn't then as you say...it's inconceivable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Is there a chance that MM illness is actually very serious hence that's the hold up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Look at it whatever way you like, we've well and truly been dumped in the brown stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: Look at it whatever way you like, we've well and truly been dumped in the brown stuff If its chocolate I'm all for it but if its the other brown stuff ill pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Is there a chance that MM illness is actually very serious hence that's the hold up? Excatly my thoughts. It would explain an awful lot about his silence and I seem to recall reading a tweet saying something about the circumstances around his reasons for needing to sell being rather sad. I hope not for his sake, but if it's true, I wish him all the very best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I've just read in the telegraph, something that's bothered me for weeks. Why has there been no statement from the sheikh, i mean at this point, they are doing more harm than good. The club is in limbo, can't move forward off the pitch, to aid the team on it. The fans have had about enough of this, time to draw a line in the sand Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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