uttoxram75 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Jourdan said: We are all hoping we’ll be OK. But the signs don’t look good at the moment. Granted if we beat Rotherham and QPR in the next two weeks, I think people will start to relax. Like you have alluded to, it’s very much in the balance and this is no time to get complacent or too comfortable. If we are still in this division come the summer, I don’t think a promotion challenge next season is realistic. I think we will need at least 12-18 months for the club to digest all of the changes at the club and be in a position to prosper in this division. I think the optimism comes from us playing so well. We are easily dominating teams including those far higher up like Stoke and Swansea. I believe we would have beaten Preston fairly easily without Waggy's stupid sending off and we should have been 3-0 up at half time vs Wednesday. My only regret is that we are not allowed to be there at the games, the atmosphere would be electric watching how Rooney has set the team up. angieram, Comrade 86, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 5 others 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: I think the optimism comes from us playing so well. We are easily dominating teams including those far higher up like Stoke and Swansea. I believe we would have beaten Preston fairly easily without Waggy's stupid sending off and we should have been 3-0 up at half time vs Wednesday. My only regret is that we are not allowed to be there at the games, the atmosphere would be electric watching how Rooney has set the team up. I think the concern comes from us not making those improved performances count. Yes, we’ve had the better of Swansea, Stoke, Sheff Wed amongst others, but if we are not getting the results to match, then questions will always be asked. Performance levels will fluctuate over the course of the next 24 games, so if we are going to stand a chance of survival, we really need to convert performances of any note into results. We haven’t done that in at least five games under Rooney, which is a worrying trend as playing well but contriving to lose or throw away points is the hallmark of many relegated sides. Edited January 11, 2021 by Jourdan rynny and LeedsCityRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jourdan said: I think the concern comes from us not making those improved performances count. Yes, we’ve had the better of Swansea, Stoke, Sheff Wed amongst others, but if we are not getting the results to match, then questions will always be asked. Performance levels will fluctuate over the course of the next 24 games, so if we are going to stand a chance of survival, we really need to convert performances of any note into results. We haven’t done that in at least five games under Rooney, which is a worrying trend as playing well but contriving to lose or throw away points is the hallmark of many relegated sides. Its coming, the way we are playing is creating chances, we only need a tiny bit of luck to go our way (Birmingham) and we'll be flying. We will win 3 or 4 on the bounce and shoot up the table, we have no one to fear in this division. Kinder, MuespachRam, Rammy03 and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Its coming, the way we are playing is creating chances, we only need a tiny bit of luck to go our way (Birmingham) and we'll be flying. We will win 3 or 4 on the bounce and shoot up the table, we have no one to fear in this division. You’re quite right in saying there is no-one to fear but that works both ways. Teams will see us on their fixture list and fancy their chances too. We have won just 3 in 11 post-Cocu after all. Hardly a run to make you tremble, is it? Take Rotherham, as an example. They’ll be buoyed from taking Everton into deep waters in the FA Cup. Approach our game in the same way and they will feel that they can cause problems for us too. We’ll win 3-4 on the bounce? I’d love to see it, but remember we have only won 4 games all season. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Bob Gnarly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Jourdan said: I think we are going down. I’ll be stunned at any other outcome. A new manager in his first managerial job with results and luck starting to go against him, a new owner coming in under a cloud of uncertainty and with less than three weeks remaining of the transfer window to get things organised, and a group of players looking very short of goals and creativity and with very fragile confidence. It doesn’t look good, you have to say. That’s the spirit !! Reggie Greenwood, RedSox, Comrade 86 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Quite a crystal ball you’ve got there but can’t help noticing it’s half empty That's got to be the prize for the worst mixed metaphor I've read over the weekend. If a crystal ball is half empty does it mean that it only holds half of its prediction properties or is it not a linear relationship? JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta, SamUltraRam and Tamworthram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: I think the optimism comes from us playing so well. We are easily dominating teams including those far higher up like Stoke and Swansea. I believe we would have beaten Preston fairly easily without Waggy's stupid sending off and we should have been 3-0 up at half time vs Wednesday. My only regret is that we are not allowed to be there at the games, the atmosphere would be electric watching how Rooney has set the team up. Jourdan is getting a lot of stick for his stance and I can understand the import of what he's saying - could have and would haves don't put points on the board. Would we have beaten Preston easily if Waghorn hadn't been sent off? No one knows. What we do know is that we got nul points in a home game. Should we have been 3-0 up against Wednesday at half time, what we do know is that we lost that game again against a relegation rival. So counting the points we should have accumulated at the end of the season will count for nowt and we are fast running out of games. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Orphanram said: I think you’ll find it’s now imminently imminent Within the next 48 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_chop Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Come Friday it still won't be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, one_chop said: Come Friday it still won't be done. Keep banging that drum. Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Keep banging that drum. You can't blame people really. We've been hearing the same thing since November. LeedsCityRam and rammieib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, one_chop said: Come Friday it still won't be done. one_chop, Reggie Greenwood, Arsene Titman and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55613348 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, one_chop said: Come Friday it still won't be done. Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, one_chop said: Come Friday it still won't be done. Want some help with a new user name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Jourdan said: I think we are going down. I’ll be stunned at any other outcome. Odds of 17/5 available at the bookies on us going down. If you are that sure we are going down, I'm sure you will be hitting the bookies pretty heavy at them odds? 13 hours ago, Jourdan said: It’s almost half way through January, I am seeing little cause for confidence and optimism. But OK we’re pessimistic... Have you not been watching the recent matches? 13 hours ago, Jourdan said: We’re still in the bottom three. It would only take a few poor results to change the feel good factor around Rooney, especially if they come against our relegation rivals Rotherham and QPR. We know nothing about the new owners and their wealth, their nous and their intentions for the club. Again, could the players’ confidence have taken a hit by recent results and recent events regarding their lack of remuneration? It’s all a bit gloomy. We really could do with a massive win on Saturday to settle everyone down. And it would only take one win to pull us out of the bottom 3. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I really think you should consider a new hobby because following Derby seems to be nothing but a completely miserable experience for you and it really cannot be good for your mental health. Gaspode, Turk Thrust and Premier ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: That's got to be the prize for the worst mixed metaphor I've read over the weekend. I promise not to rest on my trophy cabinet Will Hughes Hair and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Odds of 17/5 available at the bookies on us going down. If you are that sure we are going down, I'm sure you will be hitting the bookies pretty heavy at them odds? Have you not been watching the recent matches? And it would only take one win to pull us out of the bottom 3. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I really think you should consider a new hobby because following Derby seems to be nothing but a completely miserable experience for you and it really cannot be good for your mental health. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. After 9 years, 232 day 14 hours and 6 minutes, we've actually found something we agree on. What a time to be alive! G STAR RAM, GboroRam, ThePrisoner and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: You can't blame people really. We've been hearing the same thing since November. You're right. From the club you’ve been hearing the same clear consistent message since November. It’s still on. hang on, you were listening to one chop instead ... ? Edited January 11, 2021 by kevinhectoring mwram1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Want some help with a new user name? Some general suggestions for anyone: Thierry Ennui Marshall Gathers RamishRamByrneNathan Andrew Wisdom Craig Foresight Shiny Graham Be Like Krystian Waxnduayne Curtisn't Jack Marrioff CosI'mRichards Jarvis Cocu Rank Flampard Gary Rowent Nigel Cloth Brown Phil Comrade 86, Steve How Hard?, kevinhectoring and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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