Rams-in-Spain Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Let's be honest, the club has been in decline since Mel took over. Countless managers who were backed with cash then sacked. Over and over again! Now its back to plan A of which we were doing before Mel became the owner. What a shambles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Rams-in-Spain said: Let's be honest, the club has been in decline since Mel took over. Countless managers who were backed with cash then sacked. Over and over again! Now its back to plan A of which we were doing before Mel became the owner. What a shambles! Blame the reality of blowing your shot (or five) at getting up. If we didn't have Mel, we'd not have had the team we have had over the last six years or so and could very well be in a far worse possission than we actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rams-in-Spain Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Blame the reality of blowing your shot (or five) at getting up. If we didn't have Mel, we'd not have had the team we have had over the last six years or so and could very well be in a far worse possission than we actually are. Deluded :-= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rams-in-Spain said: Let's be honest, the club has been in decline since Mel took over. Countless managers who were backed with cash then sacked. Over and over again! Now its back to plan A of which we were doing before Mel became the owner. What a shambles! I dont blame Mel. He took a gamble with Cocu, knowing he'd never managed in england or a 'big' league before and unfortunately its backfired. Mel had the right idea bringing someone in for the long term but has just not selected the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosshogg Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Rams-in-Spain said: Let's be honest, the club has been in decline since Mel took over. Countless managers who were backed with cash then sacked. Over and over again! Now its back to plan A of which we were doing before Mel became the owner. What a shambles! Sigh. What rot, Mel ain’t perfect but he loves the club and has backed it to the hilt. We are Derby. We have been in far worse positions than this. Besides most managers left after doing well and heads were turned. ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Mel isn't blameless, of course, he fundamentally is at the root of every decision the club makes. Nevertheless, he suffers more than anyone else as a result of being in a position to make these decisions. He isn't a philamprothist playing with a new toy - he's a Derby fan trying to improve the team he supports. He's made many often forecasted great moves that have backfired or simply not had the desired effect. Ironically, the managers who he hired with a more disputable past have gone on to be generally more successful. Lampard, Rowett and McClaren were all divisive choices. Pearson, Clement and Cocu were largely backed by fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, RadioactiveWaste said: Blame the reality of blowing your shot (or five) at getting up. If we didn't have Mel, we'd not have had the team we have had over the last six years or so and could very well be in a far worse possission than we actually are. That's a fair point. I genuinely feel sorry for him, it was supposed to be so easy. Agree a cut price/expensive deal based on the play off final Vs QPR. He doesn't get promotion, but gets his hands on the tiller of a team a gnats chuff from promotion, for the (bargain) price of £60m. Spend a few quid keeping that squad together, a few decent loans and what could possibly go wrong? One, maybe two season of funding to the max would surely be enough to secure top flight football, and enable the club to be self sufficient and wean itself from the Morris teat. Maybe in time he might even be able to take some of his investment back? Fast forward 5 years, and he's been on the hook for £13m FFP losses per season, and another circa £7m pa in other costs outside of FFP. He's now on the hook for £160m, and to make matters worse has to find another chunky sum to buy his own teams stadium to avoid a points deduction! He took over looking at £60m for a side 90 minutes from promotion, and is now down over £200m for a side looking more likely to see League One than the Premier League. How he must wish he'd just bought the most expensive exec box at PP, rather than the club itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBRam Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Get a grip for everyone’s sake, the guy breathes DCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Mel isn't blameless, of course, he fundamentally is at the root of every decision the club makes. Nevertheless, he suffers more than anyone else as a result of being in a position to make these decisions. He isn't a philamprothist playing with a new toy - ?At least that cheered me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, RamNut said: ?At least that cheered me up I was hoping I would get a spell check, I wasn't even close ? Philanthropist was the word I was looking for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ambitious said: I was hoping I would get a spell check, I wasn't even close ? Philanthropist was the word I was looking for... Is that a person who believes in Phil despite all evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: I dont blame Mel. He took a gamble with Cocu, knowing he'd never managed in england or a 'big' league before and unfortunately its backfired. Mel had the right idea bringing someone in for the long term but has just not selected the right person. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silko Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I blame Sarri if he’d had a decent run as Chelsea manager we’d have kept Lampard his influence would have attracted better quality loan players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 He has the right idea wanting to play nice football & use the academy. The long term vision he bangs on about for the club Have a short term vision. Get someine like same in. Were on the brink of FFP surely the aim is get up by however means possible & stay up. Once were up then use the Premier league money to develop a style of play. I think mel has made mistakes but at least he always has Derby's best interests at heart. Maybe thats the problem being emotionally invested in the club. Is it better to have a non supporter in charge ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 hours ago, Rams-in-Spain said: Let's be honest, the club has been in decline since Mel took over. Countless managers who were backed with cash then sacked. Over and over again! Now its back to plan A of which we were doing before Mel became the owner. What a shambles! Sounds like the garbage we heard just before Lionel Pickering was forced out and the 3 crooks took control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Yeah I blame Mel and Richard Keogh, it’s all their fault! Call yourself a Ram Mr. Morris, how dare you spunk your hard earned cash away on our team. How could you think of hiring such a manager, I reckon Richard Keogh must have advised you to get Cocu in. The pair if you are a disgrace ????????? Come on give the guy a break, he’s hurting every bit as much as we all are and he needs to keep his cool in this extended period of disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 He’s doing well. He hasn’t sacked anyone for about 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Bring back The Three Amigos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I might be wrong but Mel bought us around 14/15 I think? FFP was introduced in 13/14 or something around that. So at the most FFP was about for 2 years before he bought us and I’m fairly certain the rules on it have changed since then from annual losses to 3 year rolling. You can hardly blame Mel for buying us and wanting to spend his own money getting us promoted, to then have hurdle after hurdle put in his way. He’s had us at 2 play off finals which both could have easily gone the other way. He’s made mistakes but what owner hasn’t? Managing a football team is not like any other job, you can be a success 1 season and then a total failure the next. Look what he’s done for our academy as well. There’s just no pleasing some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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