Rampage Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: As Vienna said, I think yesterday's performance was aided by Clarke and Wisdom keeping him quiet. Whether we didn't know about him or not, Diedou caught us with our pants down with his pace, hence the goal, but we had the advantage of knowing a bit about chrissy's game and how to deal with him. Not enough defenders back for their goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 The problem was not securing his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Of course Martin wouldn’t get in our current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Loving the incendiary nature of the thread title... Do feel you then failed to follow through and only pulled the pin and rolled the grenade...for it to be merely a dud. Same logic as fans saying 'Rooney can't do any worse than Cocu as manager'.... Colin isn't the answer and whilst Chris is better, he definitely was not the ultimate solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Vienna said: Whilst accepting our current forwards are woefully inadequate doesn’t yesterday’s performance by Martin, where Wisdom and Clarke had him in their back pockets, only serve to confirm that the decision not to offer him a long / lucrative new contract was the right one - and that he wouldn’t have been the answer to our problems? When you posted this I thought you were new to this parish. But, after checking I noticed you joined in 2015. You’re just so mystic and soulful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, DavesaRam said: As Vienna said, I think yesterday's performance was aided by Clarke and Wisdom keeping him quiet. Whether we didn't know about him or not, Diedou caught us with our pants down with his pace, hence the goal, but we had the advantage of knowing a bit about chrissy's game and how to deal with him. That and everyone needs to realise Chris Martin was emotionally traumatised playing against his beloved Rams, it totally threw his game, I mean he had no heart to hit the deck when challenged or the slightest nudge, the poor bloke just wasn’t himself. He was constantly getting flashbacks of Bryso bombing on past him and Will, Jeff, Johnny and Jamie feeding him balls to feet, it all got too much. No way could he put in a shift in with such conflicting emotions. Chrissy Martin, love or hate him, Derby’s no 9 and whatever his current form, right up there in the scoring charts, the haters can’t ever take that away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Bristol City said: Directly contributed to 5 goals so far. 433 doesn't work for him, injuries, blabla, etcetera. I bet you're all over Watford's fans forum right now aren't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vienna Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 51 minutes ago, Van Rammeister said: When you posted this I thought you were new to this parish. But, after checking I noticed you joined in 2015. You’re just so mystic and soulful. I am a man of few words - my greatest work goes largely unnoticed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, Vienna said: I am a man of few words - my greatest work goes largely unnoticed! There's a reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vienna Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Chester40 said: Loving the incendiary nature of the thread title... Do feel you then failed to follow through and only pulled the pin and rolled the grenade...for it to be merely a dud. Same logic as fans saying 'Rooney can't do any worse than Cocu as manager'.... Colin isn't the answer and whilst Chris is better, he definitely was not the ultimate solution. My point was not to start another debate about Martin’s contribution to Derby - that is clear. It was more a questioning of the view that all would have been ok if he was still our main man - yes I think we’d have been slightly better with him than has been the case (couldn’t be much worse I hear you say). Clearly as many have said failure to sign a quality CF was our biggest mistake, not the departure of Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vienna Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: There's a reason for that. And that would be what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Vienna said: That’s my point - not so much a criticism of Martin, who was a great servant for Derby - partly a positive reflection on Wisdom and Clarke who I thought had a good game - but also a belief that I’d take Diedhiou over Martin any day of the week. I like this story:- The play "Goodnight Vienna" had its opening night in Wigan. The producer asked the doorman how it was going. "About as well as 'Goodnight Wigan' would go down in Vienna!" Totally off topic but we need a bit of cheering up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Bristol City said: Directly contributed to 5 goals so far. 433 doesn't work for him, injuries, blabla, etcetera. saw him moan and throw his arms up in the air a few times....don't miss that part for sure and 433 worked for him with us..... he was just poor yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, Vienna said: My point was not to start another debate about Martin’s contribution to Derby - that is clear. It was more a questioning of the view that all would have been ok if he was still our main man - yes I think we’d have been slightly better with him than has been the case (couldn’t be much worse I hear you say). Clearly as many have said failure to sign a quality CF was our biggest mistake, not the departure of Martin. Clear as mud more like. I preferred your work when it went even more unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Perhaps there was a little bit of him which didn't want to piss on our chips and didn't put 100% in to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 We would have a better balance to the side and more goal threat with CM than any other striker we have. Regardless of how he played yesterday, we are lightweight up front and letting him go without a replacement feels like a big error given our current predicament. I understand why he went, it's done. Failure to replace him was a poor call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_ram Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I’d read somewhere before he was injured, I’d missed the first 2 mins and was watching without sound so genuinely didn’t realise he was playing until late in the first half. I echo several sentiments on here that I was a big Chris Martin fan, though agree with the long term decision not to give him 2 fairly expensive years, so a small part of my conflicted mind was happy he didn’t have a notable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 This is just getting embarrassing at this point. Don't you think you should wait until we've scored more goals than can be counted on one hand before sounding off about a past striker? Or maybe you think losing 1-0 to Bristol City is as good as it's going to get for us. So we may as well pretend that we got a brilliant deal by letting them sign our joint top scorer on a free. Suck it Brizzle! You only beat us 1-0 and Martin didn't even score, so it's a moral victory for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm dancing with years in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramdale Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Martin was a great signing for us, however for anyone who still thought he was the answer (regardless of our current predicament) yesterday should have ended any argument. He was completely dominated by Wisdom & Clarke and offered nothing. We need a striker, but not in the Martin mould at all. Thanks for the memories, but it was the right time to move on. The fact we didn't replace him with what is actually needed is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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