Tyler Durden Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, roboto said: I’m glad our next match is on Tuesday. All matches are a welcome distraction to the overreaction after each match (win or lose). Are you saying you're happy that the next game is so soon so we can have another slew of overreactions at both ends of the extreme so quickly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Once Sheff Wed clear their 12 point deficit our fantasy season behind closed doors can really begin. We're letting them catch up out of our warped sense of what constitutes fair play for some reason that totally eludes me. I mean.....we must be......mustn't we?.........please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Until Mr Cocu has a fully fit to squad to choose from and can play his best 11, I personally think we should not be too hasty to make judgement quite yet If however we then get hammered every week then PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedogmaz Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 10 hours ago, r4derby said: And when the attacking players return, and Cocu turns things round and we start climbing the table, will you still be crying out for a battler? Or will you be celebrating the win? You can have an opinion. But his style has changed this season alone, becoming more defensive to ensure we don’t get tonked. We will attack teams again when attackers return. I’m not giving up hope yet I admire your optimism and really wish I shared it. Players showing commitment does not reflect an encouraging performance is my issue - It's the bare minimum we should expect from them. I am interested to know how come every player we have signed is not ready to play, yet other clubs manage to sign players who can actually play or make the bench. Its not like at any point this season we have looked fitter than the opposition either. The benching of Clarke another example of this against Blackburn - not up to speed? Up to speed with what ? Walking football which is what we have played so far this season. I am not saying Ibe, Richards, Duncan etc ARE match fit but one of them surely would have been worth a bench spot and what are we only signing players who are not fit? Yes I know they were all Free but they are not really free are they? Bet Ibe is on a good whack and got a big signing on feee for example. I am not shouting Cocu out but no one can argue that he is getting the best out of what he has got atm and I bet our wage bill is still right up in top half of league for example. Ive seen some really dire football back in the day (Tommy Docherty for example) but this season so far is as poor as ive seen EVER for entertainment and I don't see a shape or plan to change that YET. Sincerely hope he turns it round but it's a massive week ahead and even the most optimistic happy clapper must have some concerns if we have two more defeats and worryingly continue to play the way we have. Fingers crossed he can prove me wrong COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Are you saying you're happy that the next game is so soon so we can have another slew of overreactions at both ends of the extreme so quickly? Yeah, because it’s nice to have a fresh argument rather than listen to the same old same old for days on end ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Theres’s Only Wan Chope said: Can we sack or transfer fans ? We wouldn’t get as much as we’d expect for them. Typical Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bluedogmaz said: Walking football which is what we have played so far this season. Sincerely hope he turns it round but it's a massive week ahead and even the most optimistic happy clapper must have soem concerns if we have two more defeats and worryingly continue to play the way we have. Fingers crossed he can prove me wrong COYR That describes me perfectly and yes I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I cannot fathom the thinking that when certain players return, things will improve. How? This form isn’t to do with who is available, it’s to do with the philosophy of play. It’s identical to the Nigel Clough era, with optimists continuously excusing dull performances and dire results by pointing to missing players, although any improvement upon their return was wholly negligible! I’m not sure of the solution, but it’s obvious to me, we will NEVER EVER EVER be even a top 10 team under Cocu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I cannot fathom the thinking that when certain players return, things will improve. How? This form isn’t to do with who is available, it’s to do with the philosophy of play. It’s identical to the Nigel Clough era, with optimists continuously excusing dull performances and dire results by pointing to missing players, although any improvement upon their return was wholly negligible! I’m not sure of the solution, but it’s obvious to me, we will NEVER EVER EVER be even a top 10 team under Cocu. Apart from last season when we finished 10th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I cannot fathom the thinking that when certain players return, things will improve. How? This form isn’t to do with who is available, it’s to do with the philosophy of play. It’s identical to the Nigel Clough era, with optimists continuously excusing dull performances and dire results by pointing to missing players, although any improvement upon their return was wholly negligible! I’m not sure of the solution, but it’s obvious to me, we will NEVER EVER EVER be even a top 10 team under Cocu. Remind me where we finished last season, I’m confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Er, we finished 10th last season...that equates to a top 10 team in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I cannot fathom the thinking that when certain players return, things will improve. How? This form isn’t to do with who is available, it’s to do with the philosophy of play. It’s identical to the Nigel Clough era, with optimists continuously excusing dull performances and dire results by pointing to missing players, although any improvement upon their return was wholly negligible! I’m not sure of the solution, but it’s obvious to me, we will NEVER EVER EVER be even a top 10 team under Cocu. Apart from last year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 At least we havent got to wait long with 4 very tricky fixtures still to play in October..I think it will be far clearer after those are out of the way as to the fate of Cocu.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Theres’s Only Wan Chope said: Can we sack or transfer fans ? So let’s say hypothetically, some fans think the Managers philosophy is a little boring, don’t see a bright future under him and would sacrifice stability to have a positive change. Then they should no longer be allowed to support the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I cannot fathom the thinking that when certain players return, things will improve. How? This form isn’t to do with who is available, it’s to do with the philosophy of play. It’s identical to the Nigel Clough era, with optimists continuously excusing dull performances and dire results by pointing to missing players, although any improvement upon their return was wholly negligible! I’m not sure of the solution, but it’s obvious to me, we will NEVER EVER EVER be even a top 10 team under Cocu. We may end up being a top 10 team (can’t see it this year) but my god it’ll be bloody boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Bring back McClaren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, TexasRam said: So let’s say hypothetically, some fans think the Managers philosophy is a little boring, don’t see a bright future under him and would sacrifice stability to have a positive change. Then they should no longer be allowed to support the club? Nope everyone should have their own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Theres’s Only Wan Chope said: Nope everyone should have their own opinion. Apart from the bloke who sits near me at PP he shouldn’t be allowed an opinion and should be transferred ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, TexasRam said: Apart from the bloke who sits near me at PP he shouldn’t be allowed an opinion and should be transferred ? Does he boo every time Keogh gets the ball? Shout get him off at Camara after one touch and screams at Roos to catch a ball in downpours? I know that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Just now, TexasRam said: Apart from the bloke who sits near me at PP he shouldn’t be allowed an opinion and should be transferred ? I would have said exactly the same about a bloke who sits near me, I'd just swop the word transferred to terminated. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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