Sparkle Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Old Spalding Ram said: Sky Sports “Harry Wilson is expected to leave Merseyside shortly and head for South Wales where he will undergo a medical in Cardiff this afternoon.“ .....is that allowed under the new Covid restrictions! ? No it isn’t and he hasn’t got a job in Wales just an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: Much as I like having a Derby man owning the club it appears little progress has been made and the only way to compete now with the big boys is for a mega mega rich Russian, sheikh or similar to come in and buy the club. Otherwise we are just going to continue being a mid championship or worse would be club. If people are happy with this great but it saddens me. Sorry for the negativity but it's how I see it. It saddens you that we are not a sports-washing project for a dictatorship, or a safe haven investment for a robber baron? Football fans really are mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, inter politics said: Wilson is apparently on 60K Thats the clear and obvious block that Cocu touched on. £1m loan fee and CCFC are paying his wages in full too (according to talksport) £1.8m wages is outside of our business model. I have no issue with this not happening is because of the reasons listed above. Liverpool doing very nicely out of this and they could raise interest in the player they don’t want all thanks to CCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 £3-5m all-in to have a player for one year is a bit mad in the current climate. Don't blame the club at all for not meeting that. He's a very entertaining player (and I'd of course have liked him here despite our work in the window) but he went missing often enough in his season with us that I feel confident in saying he's not going to be the difference between achieving promotion or not - which is the caliber of player you're looking for for that kind of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alty_Ram Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Would have been nice to have him back but we've done the right thing here. With finances as they are this is just not viable and we shouldn't be trying to meet their demands at this sort of level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 With the full details coming out we did the right thing. £60k a week is barmy for someone who’s not proved themselves at PL level. We still need an extra forward in though and us being sensible with this does not exclude this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: With the full details coming out we did the right thing. £60k a week is barmy for someone who’s not proved themselves at PL level. We still need an extra forward in though and us being sensible with this does not exclude this issue. The fact Wilson is on 60k a week really highlights the problematic, and growing, disparity between the top of the pyramid and everyone else. Wilson is a player Liverpool have been trying to offload, someone they don't see having a future at their club - and their "keep him at the club so we can try and get a decent fee" wage figure is 60 bloody grand a week. Now that information is out there; I don't see any way he was coming to the Championship without joining a club with (the also absurd) parachute payments to offset the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktwo Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 We can fully get behind the rehab of Ibe and emergence and growth of the kids now. Fwiw joswiek and kazim richards also offer plenty of difference to Marriott and Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Where has Conway plucked that £5 million figure from? I am not a mathematician but: £1.2 million loan fee + £60,000 wages over 9 months = £3.4 million. It seems an exaggerated figure that the club will be able to hide behind. I am not really sure we have any room to take the high ground over ‘unsustainable’ deals anyway. Rooney could easily be the highest paid player in the whole division, and what excellent value for money we are getting there, eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I suppose Cardiff can afford it with the money they saved by welching on the Sala deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The problem here is that Wilson is surely not in Liverpool's plans. He's never going to be a regular for them. They are not looking to loan him for development purposes, so they are not going to loan him cheaply. They will want to claw back a considerable amount of the expense of employing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Fan Half Biscuit Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Where has Conway plucked that £5 million figure from? I am not a mathematician but: £1.2 loan fee + £60,000 wages over 9 months = £3.4 million. It seems an exaggerated figure that the club will be able to hide behind. I am not really sure we have any room to take the high ground over ‘unsustainable’ deals anyway. Rooney could easily be the highest paid player in the whole division, and what excellent value for money we are getting there, eh! But Rooney's wages are paid by 32Red aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Where has Conway plucked that £5 million figure from? I am not a mathematician but: £1.2 loan fee + £60,000 wages over 9 months = £3.4 million. It seems an exaggerated figure that the club will be able to hide behind. I am not really sure we have any room to take the high ground over ‘unsustainable’ deals anyway. Rooney could easily be the highest paid player in the whole division, and what excellent value for money we are getting there, eh! My maths was about 32 wks (working to the end of May) * 60k + £1.2m = £3.12m Can't imagine there won't be some level of appearance/goal/some other clause bonuses. Agents fees bunged on top, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I think Conway has just added it up wrong. Either way, we weren't in a position to get this one done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymru Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 going to Cardiff close thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Where has Conway plucked that £5 million figure from? I am not a mathematician but: £1.2 million loan fee + £60,000 wages over 9 months = £3.4 million. It seems an exaggerated figure that the club will be able to hide behind. I am not really sure we have any room to take the high ground over ‘unsustainable’ deals anyway. Rooney could easily be the highest paid player in the whole division, and what excellent value for money we are getting there, eh! Footballers get payed yearly salaries, they don't get payed just for when they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Where has Conway plucked that £5 million figure from? I am not a mathematician but: £1.2 million loan fee + £60,000 wages over 9 months = £3.4 million. It seems an exaggerated figure that the club will be able to hide behind. I am not really sure we have any room to take the high ground over ‘unsustainable’ deals anyway. Rooney could easily be the highest paid player in the whole division, and what excellent value for money we are getting there, eh! It doesn't really matter whether it's 5 million or 3.4, does it? It's still an unreasonable amount to pay to borrow something. The club does't pay Rooney's wages, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Right decision, why shop window someone else's player for a fee we can't afford? Hopefully we've got other options in the pipeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: The club does't pay Rooney's wages, do they? No but we tell @Jourdan this all the time and he doesn't listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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