Rampage Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: and get rid of FFP as it dosnt matter how rich you are if you cannot spend the money, personally I think FFP is a good thing but something needs to be done about parachute payment's as it gives relegated clubs too much of an advantage The teams with parachute money have got the drop on us. They have landed on their feet It is like they have a protective canopy over them. Silky smooth return to prem for them in many cases. So much easier for them to reach their targets and land the players they want. Far too much of a bail out imo. Have I made myself plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: as much as I rate Harry and what he did here, I am in some ways glad as the money would be better spent on a striker. But we won't spend it. We are free agent FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: Let's face Derby is not an attractive club to be at nowadays. Where did it go wrong? After the lampard season would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lander said: It's not about the money that Mel has, it's about how much P&S allows him to spend. Why don't people get this? It's all about money somewhere in the mix. Money is God and football is its servant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: Let's face Derby is not an attractive club to be at nowadays. We are seen as a club with little ambition, a training base for academy players and the last base for aging players. As I've said before much is rotten in the state of football; a radical rethink is needed. That's why Mel has been looking for ways to invest more , because we have ambition. Don't agree with you on this one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: That's why Mel has been looking for ways to invest more , because we have ambition. Don't agree with you on this one . That's ok. Feel free to disagree. I just feel that we don't actually seem to be getting anywhere. Players don't seem to want to come to Derby and Chris Martin did say he was going to a club with ambition when he left Derby although you can't always believe what you read in the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenavo Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: That's ok. Feel free to disagree. I just feel that we don't actually seem to be getting anywhere. Players don't seem to want to come to Derby and Chris Martin did say he was going to a club with ambition when he left Derby although you can't always believe what you read in the papers. I don't think this reflects on the attractiveness or ambition of DCFC per se, more the fact that what attracts footballers the most is money - and we aren't allowed to spend enough money atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Great shame if he ends up on at Cardiff - maybe he just has to do what Liverpool say and go where he is told - I think he would have been very good for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Sky Sports “Harry Wilson is expected to leave Merseyside shortly and head for South Wales where he will undergo a medical in Cardiff this afternoon.“ .....is that allowed under the new Covid restrictions! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rampage said: The teams with parachute money have got the drop on us. They have landed on their feet It is like they have a protective canopy over them. Silky smooth return to prem for them in many cases. So much easier for them to reach their targets and land the players they want. Far too much of a bail out imo. Have I made myself plane. Couldn't agree more. I've banged on about this before, it's very unjust. I appreciate the principle in that relegated clubs have to protect high wages, revenue etc but due to the huge imbalance between the PL revenue and the EFL this creates a big split once in the championship, even bigger when players are also sold. Watford, Norwich and Bournemouth banked some £40m just to be relegated. Bournemouth have also banked a further £80m in transfers. Cardiff will have banked some £75m in parachute payments, since their relegation (prob why they've signed Wilson, not us). Covid has shown us this isn't sustainable for non PL clubs. You only have to look at Bolton, Bury and Wigan. Others are teetering. I hope the new Manifesto for Change gets somewhere. Off soap box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lander Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: It's all about money somewhere in the mix. Money is God and football is its servant. Of course it's about money but even if Mel wanted to, his hands are tied by P&S due to our attempts to obtain promotion over recent years. Having an owner with double Mel's money wouldn't change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Rampage said: The teams with parachute money have got the drop on us. They have landed on their feet It is like they have a protective canopy over them. Silky smooth return to prem for them in many cases. So much easier for them to reach their targets and land the players they want. Far too much of a bail out imo. Have I made myself plane. I thought you were winging it but now I get the thrust of your argument! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Might get a call now we’ve got Marriott of the wage bill to redirect to Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lander said: Of course it's about money but even if Mel wanted to, his hands are tied by P&S due to our attempts to obtain promotion over recent years. Having an owner with double Mel's money wouldn't change this. Unless your Forest, who are buying and loaning everyone and anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, DCFC27 said: Might get a call now we’ve got Marriott of the wage bill to redirect to Derby. I really doubt it. Cardiff are paying 1.2m loan fee and all his wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 He's crap anyway... Never wanted us to sign him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 With Zoon and Marriott out I think we’ll be about 30 per week better off now - 1 minute ago, inter politics said: I really doubt it. Cardiff are paying 1.2m loan fee and all his wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Wilson is apparently on 60K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rampage said: The teams with parachute money have got the drop on us. They have landed on their feet It is like they have a protective canopy over them. Silky smooth return to prem for them in many cases. So much easier for them to reach their targets and land the players they want. Far too much of a bail out imo. Have I made myself plane. Some of the sides you allude to didn't have the parachute money to start with as they weren't playing in the Premiership but got promoted independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dappled Ram said: That's ok. Feel free to disagree. I just feel that we don't actually seem to be getting anywhere. Players don't seem to want to come to Derby and Chris Martin did say he was going to a club with ambition when he left Derby although you can't always believe what you read in the papers. Maybe Derby have been spoiled in recent years... players don’t come to Derby? We have signed some quality in the last few years, loan and permanent - Bent, Wilson, Mount, Rooney, Bielik, Joswiak, Ibe. Managers- Lampard, Cocu Not all signings have been great but I would argue we have attracted some big names here. We are trying to balance the books though and you won’t find many championship teams splashing big money at the moment due to current climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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