CornwallRam Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Worth bearing in mind it's the government who set the rules on work permits. They are quite vague,but to get a work permit the employer needs to demonstrate that there is no British employee that could do the job to the same standard. The FA then negotiated an interpretation of this with the government so it is based on number of international caps. Then clubs know where they stand... Safe in the knowledge they will be able to get a work permit if they meet the criteria. The FA won't be able to change the rules without the agreement of the government. Even if the FA wanted to do that, I don't think it will be a priority for them given the covid and other Brexit stuff going on right now. My best guess is that the rules on international caps won't be changing for at least the next 2 transfer windows. I 100% agree with you - it matches exactly what I've found whilst spend a few hours researching the topic. As things stand EU players will be treated the same as all other overseas players from Jan 1 unless the Government somehow performs the biggest U-turn in history and cut a deal where we remain in the Single Market. It's also legally dubious to treat EU citizens differently to non-EU ones, so any changes in the rules to favour European players are likely to face some serious legal challenges. Yet, Steve Nicholson insists that club are still considering signing Dursun - who will not get a work permit. Do the club know something we don't? Or have the club missed something they should know? I would say that it's unlikely that the club wouldn't be on top of the rules, but I remember the Frank Fielding signing. That said, also a bit odd that Steve Nicholson hasn't mentioned anything. I wonder if @Owen87ITK could shed any light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I 100% agree with you - it matches exactly what I've found whilst spend a few hours researching the topic. As things stand EU players will be treated the same as all other overseas players from Jan 1 unless the Government somehow performs the biggest U-turn in history and cut a deal where we remain in the Single Market. It's also legally dubious to treat EU citizens differently to non-EU ones, so any changes in the rules to favour European players are likely to face some serious legal challenges. Yet, Steve Nicholson insists that club are still considering signing Dursun - who will not get a work permit. Do the club know something we don't? Or have the club missed something they should know? I would say that it's unlikely that the club wouldn't be on top of the rules, but I remember the Frank Fielding signing. That said, also a bit odd that Steve Nicholson hasn't mentioned anything. I wonder if @Owen87ITK could shed any light? The only thing I can think of is that there might be a fudge-it solution for this window where player could sign an employment contract on 31 Dec to take advantage of free movement, but the player registration piece happens on Jan 1st because that has to happen in the transfer window. If you think about it, that's kind of what happened with Rooney. We employed him, but he couldn't play for a couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Peak Derby to sign him without a work permit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Srg said: Think he holds dual passport anyway. He was born in Germany and is German-Turkish. That’s where the aggression comes from !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMalicious Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Srg said: Think he holds dual passport anyway. He was born in Germany and is German-Turkish. Ahhh yes Esteban Fuertes springs to mind now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Are we going to try and bring him in under Priti Patels points based system.....? Anag Ram and AbuDerbyDave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Maybe there's a pre-contract signed which allows for an earlier request for a permit? He certainly appears confident he's coming. Ramslaar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: He certainly appears confident he's coming. So was Esteban Fuertes.... Jourdan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, BaaLocks said: So was Esteban Fuertes.... And Lubos Kubik and Ivo Knoflicek And Iain Storey Moore Yup - we've been here before.... Turnstile, 48 hours, spondon_ram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Anag Ram said: Maybe there's a pre-contract signed which allows for an earlier request for a permit? He certainly appears confident he's coming. ...or he might just love getting his ego massaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, BaaLocks said: And Lubos Kubik and Ivo Knoflicek And Iain Storey Moore Yup - we've been here before.... We welcome our new signing....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Taribo said: Peak Derby to sign him without a work permit Is he Married ? .......can we get him to marry a Derby lass? ...........Jim fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Two more goals today. GB SPORTS and May Contain Nuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 On 20/10/2020 at 12:48, Taribo said: Peak Derby to sign him without a work permit We’ve signed players without a passport before so nothing would surprise me... he could have one leg and I’d believe we signed him. rammieib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said: We’ve signed players without a passport before so nothing would surprise me... he could have one leg and I’d believe we signed him. Wrong, we signed a south American player who an illegal passport belonging to a man called Keith from Barry island ? Taribo and CornwallRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 We could get him for arund 500k if he is final year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) On 24/10/2020 at 13:51, Anag Ram said: Two more goals today. Penalty and a header from an inswinging free kick. The penalty was bizarre. He jumped in the air and kicked it as he landed, showboating. Would have looked a right rick had he missed. Edited October 25, 2020 by Coconut Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 A bit on levelling up the signing of EU and non-EU players. Also a brief intro to the points based system they're in discussions over (not the basic international caps requirement). https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12113276/fa-threatens-premier-league-clubs-over-january-foreign-signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 23 hours ago, B4ev6is said: We could get him for arund 500k if he is final year contract. Im worried if he keeps scoring like this, they will try desperately to keep him, or raise his value even more , plus other clubs will be noticing him since weve made offers he is now on others radars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BodminRam said: Im worried if he keeps scoring like this, they will try desperately to keep him, or raise his value even more , plus other clubs will be noticing him since weve made offers he is now on others radars How many goals in how many games. Out of contract at end of season so free then. Highest bidder at Xmas if club prepared to let him go then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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