jimbo jones Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Exactly. I can’t think of anyone else. Forsyth ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 hours ago, DazaDunn said: I'm absolutely sick of people like you! What is the point in saying things like this! If you REALLY think we'll score a goal you need your head checking! Own goal by Norwich. Happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazaDunn Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, oldtimeram said: Own goal by Norwich. Happy now? You're convinced we'll get into their half? Do me a favour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, DazaDunn said: You're convinced we'll get into their half? Do me a favour ? Back pass from the halfway line that the keeper misjudges and goes under his foot....QED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 12 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said: Thanks. But seeing as you believe Rooney should be rewarded with a number 10 role after yesterday's abject display, I won't take it too much to heart ? Wasnt meant for you to take it to heart anyway so glad you haven't i was just surprised to see such a weak team. Hector ingram totally unproven wisdom really struggled and you kept him in, bird is really ineffective, knight brings energy but little else. Rooney seems to be a scapegoat. Its no coincidence we shot up the table last year when he joined. I put him in at No.10 because thats where he played and was effective most of his career. When in defensive midfield he has to defend which is not his strength. You can't win nothing with kids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just go for just go there and attack them look just there and think we are going to win but we are going to fight for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Norwich and Watford next two. We might and likely will have zero points after five games. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Cocu_Doodle_Do said: Wasnt meant for you to take it to heart anyway so glad you haven't i was just surprised to see such a weak team. Hector ingram totally unproven wisdom really struggled and you kept him in, bird is really ineffective, knight brings energy but little else. Rooney seems to be a scapegoat. Its no coincidence we shot up the table last year when he joined. I put him in at No.10 because thats where he played and was effective most of his career. When in defensive midfield he has to defend which is not his strength. You can't win nothing with kids! OK, fair enough. Personally I believe its stronger than you say because there's a concentration of numbers & energy in the centre of the park...thats where we were torn apart v Blackburn and thats the key to us keeping a clean sheet Sat. Bird is still a very capable player - when he advanced slightly v Luton, he was much better & it was his killer pass that started the move for our goal. Knight is perpetual energy (and brings a goal threat) & is much better in the centre of the park. Those two plus Shinnie sweeping should give us a good core. Re Wisdom v Te Wierik, you've obviously gone for Mike but he looks to be off the pace & lacking confidence. Andre was poor Sat but was playing left side for some unfathomable reason, he was pretty good at Luton on his proper side. Believe he & Clarke are our best CB combo at present. Hector-Ingram is the wildcard but frankly we need some presence up top. He's a strong, quick lad & in a game where we're likely to be on the back foot, we could do with someone to hold the ball...Marriott simply won't do that. My full views on Rooney are expressed elsewhere but I was pretty appalled by his casual attitude on Sat. Frankly I think his legs have gone & his attitude isnt right. I believe he'd be a passenger if played at no 10. As i'm mindful Norwich will come at us, my picks give us a strong centre, an outlet to hold the ball & 2 genuine wide men to hit on the break. FWIW I believe Cocu will pick something entirely different ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: OK, fair enough. Personally I believe its stronger than you say because there's a concentration of numbers & energy in the centre of the park...thats where we were torn apart v Blackburn and thats the key to us keeping a clean sheet Sat. Bird is still a very capable player - when he advanced slightly v Luton, he was much better & it was his killer pass that started the move for our goal. Knight is perpetual energy (and brings a goal threat) & is much better in the centre of the park. Those two plus Shinnie sweeping should give us a good core. Re Wisdom v Te Wierik, you've obviously gone for Mike but he looks to be off the pace & lacking confidence. Andre was poor Sat but was playing left side for some unfathomable reason, he was pretty good at Luton on his proper side. Believe he & Clarke are our best CB combo at present. Hector-Ingram is the wildcard but frankly we need some presence up top. He's a strong, quick lad & in a game where we're likely to be on the back foot, we could do with someone to hold the ball...Marriott simply won't do that. My full views on Rooney are expressed elsewhere but I was pretty appalled by his casual attitude on Sat. Frankly I think his legs have gone & his attitude isnt right. I believe he'd be a passenger if played at no 10. As i'm mindful Norwich will come at us, my picks give us a strong centre, an outlet to hold the ball & 2 genuine wide men to hit on the break. FWIW I believe Cocu will pick something entirely different ? More importantly, it puts players in their right positions, instead of asking them to perform unfamiliar roles. A lot of football is instinct, regardless of what the coaches and pundits would have us believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Cocu_Doodle_Do said: knight brings energy but little else. and goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I'm not entirely sure on which formation to go with but we somehow need to get the tenacity of either Shinnie or Knight in the centre of midfield. Someone who is prepared to run through brick walls to win that ball back. It's what we are severely lacking at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franks Tanked Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Marshall Wisdom. Davies. Clarke. Byrne. Bird. Shinnie. Buchanan Knight. Jozwaik. New??? Roos, Mike TW, Forsyth, Rooney, Holmes, Marriott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: and goals The odd goal yes but can you see him getting ahead of ibe Jozwiak Lawrence or Sibley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said: OK, fair enough. Personally I believe its stronger than you say because there's a concentration of numbers & energy in the centre of the park...thats where we were torn apart v Blackburn and thats the key to us keeping a clean sheet Sat. Bird is still a very capable player - when he advanced slightly v Luton, he was much better & it was his killer pass that started the move for our goal. Knight is perpetual energy (and brings a goal threat) & is much better in the centre of the park. Those two plus Shinnie sweeping should give us a good core. Re Wisdom v Te Wierik, you've obviously gone for Mike but he looks to be off the pace & lacking confidence. Andre was poor Sat but was playing left side for some unfathomable reason, he was pretty good at Luton on his proper side. Believe he & Clarke are our best CB combo at present. Hector-Ingram is the wildcard but frankly we need some presence up top. He's a strong, quick lad & in a game where we're likely to be on the back foot, we could do with someone to hold the ball...Marriott simply won't do that. My full views on Rooney are expressed elsewhere but I was pretty appalled by his casual attitude on Sat. Frankly I think his legs have gone & his attitude isnt right. I believe he'd be a passenger if played at no 10. As i'm mindful Norwich will come at us, my picks give us a strong centre, an outlet to hold the ball & 2 genuine wide men to hit on the break. FWIW I believe Cocu will pick something entirely different ? We both agree on Shinnie and I would agree Wisdom was good v Luton and MTW was shocking v Blackburn. I just don’t want to write MTW off after 2.5 games and I am still praying him and Clarke can make a solid partnership! Think Clarke is nailed on now for the rest of the season it’s just who partners him. Obviously we disagree with Bird Rooney Ingram etc but that’s fine. Your team looks like a team I see us having in a few years when these players have developed/improved but for me just not for now. Anyways Let’s see what Saturday brings! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 3 3 marshall byrne davies (need some experience and organisation at the back) clarke buchannan bird Holmes shinnie jozwiak Marriott whittaker (again thought he looked positive when he came on, his touch looks better and he looks stronger. Guess until he scored a few some people won’t change their mind on him.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 All I want really is to see the basis of some sort of settled team. The occasional piece of rotation or a bit of horses for courses is fine but constant changes to the back four are not going to see you be successful in my opinion. This might also be a good game to help MTW settle as Norwich are not at all direct. Marshall Byrne MTW Clarke Buchanan Holmes Bird Knight Whittaker Rooney Jozwiak I do not subscribe to the idea that Rooney is finished up front but a system has to suit him and I think that is with lots of running around him. He still has undoubted quality but this way when or if he loses the ball it is still going to be a salvageable situation. 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1 gets an extra attack minded midfielder into the team - and I really don’t think Bird needs Rooney holding his hand for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Marshall Wisdom Evans Clarke Byrne Holmes Bird Shinnie Buchanan Whittaker Marriott Jozwiak I would try something along these lines. Knight and Sibley could fit in for Holmes and Shinnie, but I would absolutely try a combative midfield, if for no other reason than for us to be difficult to play against. The front three has enough pace to stretch the play, so I think we can look to play without the ball and offer a threat. Whatever the team... this is going to be a tough match for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Marshall Wisdom Evans Clarke Byrne Holmes Bird Shinnie Buchanan Whittaker Marriott Jozwiak I would try something along these lines. Knight and Sibley could fit in for Holmes and Shinnie, but I would absolutely try a combative midfield, if for no other reason than for us to be difficult to play against. The front three has enough pace to stretch the play, so I think we can look to play without the ball and offer a threat. Whatever the team... this is going to be a tough match for us! An extra man would certainly help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, inter politics said: An extra man would certainly help.. I would probably go for Roos because 2 goalies would be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 26/09/2020 at 20:38, Millenniumram said: Right then... what to do with the team? Going a bit rogue I think we need an organiser at the back - Someone to tell the defence where to be and the midfield in front - Plus a couple of actual tacklers in the midfield so Marshall Byrne Evans Clarke Buchanan Knight Shinnie Sibley Someone Marriott Jozwiak Obviously haven't worked out who would play RM - Unless Ibe/Lawrence/Waggers are available yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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