Curtains Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 With no fans back in stadium. Just heard this on SSN . They will need government help for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 This is what really annoys me. Why not levy agents. How much money goes out the game to these leeches. Even if the charges agents 10% to operate in the UK it would make the £200m considerably less. Especially if you took the Premier League into account too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Curtains said: With no fans back in stadium. Just heard this on SSN . They will need government help for sure Should the government help football clubs and let other businesses collapse? Are they really going to give a club like Derby financial help after we have just signed a player for £3.6m and have players on over a £1m a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Figure sounds accurate So like any business with catastrophic fall in sales .... either Or any of the following apply 1) clubs go bust 2) costs (In reality this means player wages) get slashed beyond recognition 3) someone finds a money tree 4) P and S rules Become unworkable as everyone is in breach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Think there's far more fitting uses of the governments bail out fund way, way before football clubs. The massive number of people ineligible for furlough due to falling foul of a nominal cut off date or the self employed earning a penny over 50 grand immediately spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, sage said: Should the government help football clubs and let other businesses collapse? Are they really going to give a club like Derby financial help after we have just signed a player for £3.6m and have players on over a £1m a year? Football clubs in the EFL rely on money each season from the EFL via TV money and Premier League money etc. The EFL are asking for help as are the Premier League. The government may or may not help. Either way it’s going to be a very serious issue . I don’t understand the whole thing but Oliver Dowden has had meetings with 8 sports groups today about the no fans issue and that included the EFL and Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Think there's far more fitting uses of the governments bail out fund way, way before football clubs. The massive number of people ineligible for furlough due to falling foul of a nominal cut off date or the self employed earning a penny over 50 grand immediately spring to mind. But on the other hand, it's their ability to lift the mood of people across the country. The government may be willing to pay to keep public mood positive over winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 It appears that the issue regarding no fans in Stadiums is more about outside the grounds regarding groups of people etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Think there's far more fitting uses of the governments bail out fund way, way before football clubs. The massive number of people ineligible for furlough due to falling foul of a nominal cut off date or the self employed earning a penny over 50 grand immediately spring to mind. Agree Football authorities and clubs at higher levels need to help themselves more before government bail ins are seriously considered I.m.h.o Grass roots help is more worthy of discussion because it’s heavily reliant on gate receipts, matchday revenue and player sales to survive. Many from division one down will struggle and are probably not paying exorbitant salaries. This virus may mean a reset of financial packages throughout the game and certain other sports, which despite the circumstances is perhaps not a bad thing. The largesse of top flight salaries many struggle to earn in a lifetime and such as agents draining clubs has tainted a fair few fans views of the game of late, about time the game lived within its means and stopped this ridiculous buying glory “debt trap”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, Zag zig said: Agree Football authorities and clubs at higher levels need to help themselves more before government bail ins are seriously considered I.m.h.o Grass roots help is more worthy of discussion because it’s heavily reliant on gate receipts, matchday revenue and player sales to survive. Many from division one down will struggle and are probably not paying exorbitant salaries. This virus may mean a reset of financial packages throughout the game and certain other sports, which despite the circumstances is perhaps not a bad thing. The largesse of top flight salaries many struggle to earn in a lifetime and such as agents draining clubs has tainted a fair few fans views of the game of late, about time the game lived within its means and stopped this ridiculous buying glory “debt trap”. If every player in the top 2 divisions, gave up 10% of what they earn over £10k a week to the bottom 2 divisions, it would get them through this season. That obviously won't happen but if they aren't prepared do do that then why should the taxpayer help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Curtains said: It appears that the issue regarding no fans in Stadiums is more about outside the grounds regarding groups of people etc Apparently the government has asked the various leagues for financial forecast of losses from no fans until next season starts. I think we're looking at another year to attend games, which will be catastrophic for professional sport in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Curtains said: With no fans back in stadium. Just heard this on SSN . They will need government help for sure Not going to happen, no help for airlines etc and how can you actively help probably half of the owners when they are shall we say ‘a little bit dodgy ‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, sage said: If every player in the top 2 divisions, gave up 10% of what they earn over £10k a week to the bottom 2 divisions, it would get them through this season. That obviously won't happen but if they aren't prepared do do that then why should the taxpayer help? Maybe the government could let them give up 10% pre tax, and not tax the resultant pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 That is 1 Neymar or the amount spent by Chelsea in this transfer window. Cap agent fees and use a similar model to stamp duty, the bigger the transfer, the bigger the amount and pass this on to lower league clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: But on the other hand, it's their ability to lift the mood of people across the country. The government may be willing to pay to keep public mood positive over winter. Erm... May I ask?... Which club do you support? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Isn't the figure £100m a month across the leagues? Just checked, it's £100m a month for the PL alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, sage said: If every player in the top 2 divisions, gave up 10% of what they earn over £10k a week to the bottom 2 divisions, it would get them through this season. That obviously won't happen but if they aren't prepared do do that then why should the taxpayer help? Let’s not forget semi pro down to tier 7. Football has had more than enough money to help grass roots, only the spending on transfers, associated fees and wages, along with EFL incompetence of ownership vetting has led to current problems. The game lower down should be a lot more financially stable, but it’s not because of the pursuit of glory or status at serious cost, at higher levels has put it in jeopardy. Selling players is like a lottery win if you have a gem, but not every club gets lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I hope all these clubs pay up their £50k to The EFL before they go bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuDerbyDave Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: Apparently the government has asked the various leagues for financial forecast of losses from no fans until next season starts. I think we're looking at another year to attend games, which will be catastrophic for professional sport in this country. They should include how much they will spend on pointless appeals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Meanwhile the EFL pursue a club over an accountancy technicality. Anyhow, it's time for the Premier League to recognise the importance of the different layers in the football tree, right down to grass roots. Distribute the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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